Points on abortion and the crutch of supporters

In other words a fetus is the same as a lump of garbage to be tossed in the can, nevermind the head, and the arms, legs, beating heart.At least be honest and stop this intelligence insulting rhetoric that a fetus is a mass of undiscernaable cells.

You had to change the focus of my points to escape them.When does a fetus possess a beating heart ?I've seen pictures of fetuses, they look like babies and not a mass of cells or even a cist that is tossed in the garbage.My only point is that the fetus, which you have dishonestly described as a mass of cells, is accurately described visually to look like a baby. It is not a matter of opinion - it looks like a baby - I don't need your pro-abortion spin to tell me what I don't see.This message has been edited by WILLOWTREE, 05-06-2004 10:44 PM

Damn good point.But for the record, I am for abortion only because we cannot go back. I just want Crashfrog types to stop lying about fetuses, they are unborn babies, and I do not need help or to be enlightened as to what "they really are".I also think late term abortion is murder (third trimester) and should be outlawed. Lines are drawn everywhere in society and this is a line that is reasonable.

Crashfrog:Why don't you post pictures of fetuses that are in the third trimester, then the whole room will watch you retreat behind the rights issue - which isn't the exact subject in this present exchange.Why don't you describe how a god-damn money grubbing doctor aborts a fetus in the third trimester by ripping it out of the womb, legs, arms, and the beating heart then stops.You god damn hypocrite making an issue about a fictitious dead end argument concerning the rape of a female child vs. a male child then using that straw argument to launch a pseudo defense of your manhood to protect a woman in your care. You can't even admit in principle as to what a third trimester fetus looks like and protect that beating heart.Your pictoral depictions are visual inflammatory rhetoric intended to misrepresent the actual look of a mature fetus that has the indignity of being created in a climate that disregards the obvious.P.S./edit: Why don't you tell me the picture in post #225 is not what I see. The whole issue in this present exchange is about honesty. You are whitewashing that which cannot be and every honest and intelligent person knows it.This message has been edited by WILLOWTREE, 05-07-2004 01:27 PM

ok !