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Hyroglyphx
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Message 18 of 300 (367080)
11-30-2006 11:35 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Utopia
11-29-2006 4:43 PM


If you wanted controversy, controversy so you shall have
Your list are themselves worthy of a long debate. We should probably narrow them down because the thread will just get complicated if we don't. Its up to you, seeing as you're the OP.
I don't think O.J. did it. I think his oldest son did.
I couldn't help but notice this one. You might be the only person on the planet that believes this. So, what kind of evidence exists to support such a lofty assertion?

Faith is not a pathetic sentiment, but robust, vigorous confidence built on the fact that God is holy love. You cannot see Him just now, you cannot fully understand what He's doing, but you know that you know Him." -Oswald Chambers

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 35 of 300 (367165)
11-30-2006 6:03 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Utopia
11-30-2006 2:01 PM


Re: If you wanted controversy, controversy so you shall have
To be honest I haven't really researched this to any great length but there are the "facts" and conclusions I drew from them that led me to believe his eldest son did it.
Fair enough.
1) Blood matching O.J.s was found at the scene: I'm no biologist so I could be wrong but wouldn't O.J.'s son's blood be very likely to match his?
He could, but its extremely unlikely for the simple fact that O.J.'s blood type is the rarest in the world. Only 0.5% of the human population have the same type. What are the odds that a person with that low of a percentage was even in the same city as Simpson, let alone, shed their blood on his residence on the same day that the murder transpired? Those odds are condemning. I can't remember what type he is, but its very rare.
2) O.J. acted very "guilty" in the wake of the murderers: If it's true that he really didn't do it, only someone very close to him would cause O.J. to act the way he did. The only person I can think he'd be inclined to protect would be a family member.
Why not think he was guilty if he wasn't guilty? Why take police on a slow speed chase for miles and miles if only to protect a son that was never even remotely considered a suspect? If he acted guilty, common sense would prevail... He is guilty. And its a damn shame that the police botched it so badly.
3) O.J.'s eldest children (not by Nicole) didn't like her at all: Speaks for itself and my provide motive
Not liking someone is not enough to convict someone of murder. O.J. didn't like Nicole either, but that, alone, is not enough to bring someone to trial.
4) The glove didn't fit: It's more likely that the glove simply wasn't on his hand than that it shrunk and all that other jazz. Perhaps that glove fits his son's hand?
The gloves shrunk. You can look at and tell that much. Now, the "gloves" are just circumstantial evidence. Its not like that, of all things, was their smoking gun. But we could turn the argument around on itself and say that any intelligent killer will intentionally plant gloves that don't fit their hand to spread disinformation.
I'm not married to this opinion by any means. If we are going to discuss this much further I say go ahead and propose a new thread
Hmmmmm. Not a half-bad idea. I think I might do that.
Edited by nemesis_juggernaut, : edit to add

Faith is not a pathetic sentiment, but robust, vigorous confidence built on the fact that God is holy love. You cannot see Him just now, you cannot fully understand what He's doing, but you know that you know Him." -Oswald Chambers

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 36 of 300 (367166)
11-30-2006 6:13 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by tudwell
11-30-2006 12:07 PM


Re: Bring back capital punishment
I guess the real question is should prisons be meant for punishment or rehabilitation?
Both, depending on the circumstances. I say that it should be circumstantial because rehabilitating people means that you are training their behavior for reintroducing them into society. If you are in jail for life because you have been convicted of triple-homicide, there is no reason to rehabilitate.
Besides, the punishment should always fit the crime. Prison isn't a free room and board so inmates can watch cable tv at the expense of tax payers. It should be a housing to humanely keep dangerous people away from the general public, where they are punished for their behavior.

Faith is not a pathetic sentiment, but robust, vigorous confidence built on the fact that God is holy love. You cannot see Him just now, you cannot fully understand what He's doing, but you know that you know Him." -Oswald Chambers

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 47 of 300 (367302)
12-01-2006 3:07 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by kjsimons
12-01-2006 12:27 PM


Re: Exclusivity
Some of the smartest in the world are Atheists and it is a fact that Atheists on average have achieved higher levels of learning then theists.
*starts a slow clap*
Maybe that's the very thing that makes you foolish-- placing so much stock in 'higher levels' of learning, which only serves to benefit temporal functions.

Faith is not a pathetic sentiment, but robust, vigorous confidence built on the fact that God is holy love. You cannot see Him just now, you cannot fully understand what He's doing, but you know that you know Him." -Oswald Chambers

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 62 of 300 (367451)
12-02-2006 12:06 PM
Reply to: Message 55 by Archer Opteryx
12-01-2006 9:56 PM


All nations of the world should formally recognize the right of Taiwan's people to decide their own destiny. They have earned that right.
I fully agree. What the hell is up with China anyway? They have more land than they know what do with it. Let the Taiwanese alone.
Ashley Judd should do more nude scenes.
I'm sure you won't find that request to be terribly controversial amongst most of your peers.
Governments should not recognize marriage of any kind. Governments should establish 'domestic partnerships' to ensure certain rights for consenting adults: mutual property ownership, estate rights, tax filing, child guardianship. All contracts of 'marriage' and understandings of its 'sanctity' are thus left to private citizens to work out according to their beliefs.
Isn't that what marriage already is? -- domestic partnerships, mutual property ownership, estate rights, tax filing, child guardianship, etc? What exactly are you seeking to amend?
Bison is better than beef.
I fully agree. Ostrich is really good too, though the price per pound isn't cool because its considered an exotic meat.
The biggest danger to citizens of a democracy is neither the party on the left or the party on the right. It is partisanship itself.
Well, a house divided against itself cannot stand. I think the Left and the Right should kiss and makeup before we have an all-out civil war of epic proportions.
Dates should be written in descending order so that they lead naturally into hours, minutes and seconds as needed
I'd like to see the whole am/pm thing removed for military time. Its just so much easier.
If women ran the world we would have fewer wars, but more assassinations.
Heh... I'm afraid you're right.
Before anyone can register to vote they should pass a simple standard test. It would test voters' knowledge of the jobs they elect candidates to do.
That's not a half-bad idea. But you know the ACLU or something will throw a hissy fit and call it unconstitutional, even though, funnily enough, you basically have to take a test in order to be a juror.
It's past time America adopted the metric system.
What would we call the Quarter Pounder???
How about a Royale with cheese?
Robert Heinlein's novella 'The Star Beast' should be made into a movie. Give it to Spielberg or Pixar.
I can't help you there. I happen to own two Heinlein novel's but haven't the faintest idea about either book.
It's past time European countries cared about human rights outside their neighborhood. When it's Bosnia, they care. When it's China, they don't.
Yeah, especially when the Chinese government is selling the organs of the Falun Gong.
Well, according to this article, The Czechs, Russians, Scots, Slovakians and Germans are starting to openly support the atrocities against Falun Dafa practitioners.
Contrary to popular belief, Jim Carrey is not funny.
He has his moments, but he's known for overkill. If he was funny in one scene, he could easily be annoying in the next.
It's past time Russia buried Lenin.
Heh... Yeah, that's just kind of creepy.
Someone should make a movie epic of Wagner's 'Ring of the Nibelungs.'
???
All high school students should take courses in logic and personal finance.
Courses in "logic." Personal finances makes sense, but I don't think you can teach people logic; you either have it or you don't. That's like teaching people "smart."
People should think about sex less and do it more.
Yeah, you're probably right.
We should count years from Apollo 11. That makes 1969 the new Year 0.
......okay.............................................
Evangelicals should get rid of their verbal tic of placing 'just' before every first-person verb: 'We just wanna praise God,' 'We just wanna share the good news', etc. It doesn't sound self-effacing. It sounds like a symptom.
I've just never noticed anything like that before. Is this just a TBN thing? Just what exactly are you talking about?
When China becomes a democracy the US should present it with a gift: a Goddess of Democracy statue for Tiananmen Square. France made a similar gesture once; now America can pay it forward.
It'll never happen. They like the benefits of a free trade market, but are addicted to controlling its citizens and even citizens abroad. China has more operatives in the United States than any other country in the world. That nonsense has to stop.
Dozens of actresses could win an Oscar with a script like 'Erin Brokovich.'
Yes.
Michael Moore and Ann Coulter should marry. You know they want to.
..............*shudders*.................... perish the thought.....
Death penalty for people who fake cynicism to camouflage naivete.
That might be a bit much.
Lifelong imprisonment with no parole for people who:
1. say 'my two cents' on message boards
Is that a bad thing to say? I'll be sure to say it now that I know it irks you.
2. want to 'end world poverty' while objecting to 'our jobs going overseas'
I guess I'm a dead man. Bottom line: Jobs overseas line the pockets of American companies, making them richer, but slowly depreciate the value of the dollar overall by taking away revenue that could be going into the economy. Aside from which, how do jobs going over sea end world hunger? That's a lofty goal riding on a phantom horse.
3. use passive tense in office memos ('A meeting was held and it was decided that...')
That's usually how I do it by habit.
4. uSe rAnDoM caPs
thAt'S THe dumBeSEst iDeA I've eveR hEard.
5. say 'evil' whenever someone else says 'Microsoft' or 'Wal-Mart'
No more evil than any other successful corporation. I think you could make a better case against McDonald's and Marlboro.
Drop the Pledge of Allegience in American schools. If kids need something to recite, teach them the Bill of Rights.
Most schools don't recite the Pledge of Allegiance because most schools pander to the left, and the left despises patriotism.
Let's put real jazz in elevators.
You mean you don't like Muzak? I hear they've revamped. I wouldn't mind hearing "Master of Puppets" in the elevator. Can't say most people would like it though.
Plenty of good things happen in the world. People rarely consider the disasters that were avoided, the wars that went unfought, and the lives that might have been lost but were not. It's worth considering.
I fully agree.
'Galaxy Quest' is the best 'Star Trek' movie ever made.
Star Trek should be outlawed on every corner of the globe, punishable by forced to watch copious amounts of excerpts by William Shatner. To quote from Fight Club:
Pitt: If you could fight any celebrity, who would it be?
Norton: Shatner..... I'd fight William Shatner.
Edited by nemesis_juggernaut, : typos

Faith is not a pathetic sentiment, but robust, vigorous confidence built on the fact that God is holy love. You cannot see Him just now, you cannot fully understand what He's doing, but you know that you know Him." -Oswald Chambers

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Hyroglyphx
Inactive Member


Message 83 of 300 (367569)
12-03-2006 2:10 PM
Reply to: Message 78 by mike the wiz
12-03-2006 12:19 PM


First, dentistry was painless
then bicycles were chainless
and carriages were horseless
and many laws, enforceless.
Next, cookery was fireless
telegraphy was wireless
cigars were nicotineless,
and coffee was caffeineless
Soon oranges were seedless
the putting green, weedless
the college boy, joyless
the proper diet, fatless.
New roads are dustless
The latest minds are restless
our tennis courts, sodless
Our new religion, Godless.
-Anonymous-
Edited by nemesis_juggernaut, : No reason given.

Faith is not a pathetic sentiment, but robust, vigorous confidence built on the fact that God is holy love. You cannot see Him just now, you cannot fully understand what He's doing, but you know that you know Him." -Oswald Chambers

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 251 of 300 (369845)
12-14-2006 11:16 PM
Reply to: Message 132 by nator
12-06-2006 8:45 PM


Re: on the shady side of the street
African proverb: “The ax forgets, the tree remembers.”
That's a great proverb... In the future, will I be like the ax and forget about it, or like the tree who remembers? Hmmmmm?

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 252 of 300 (369848)
12-14-2006 11:25 PM
Reply to: Message 230 by nator
12-12-2006 8:25 AM


Rape of men by women is extremely rare.
I have been molested by two women while I severely inebriated who I wouldn't have ordinarily done anything with. I'm a minority times two. I can't say I was raped in a classic sense, but I was definitely molested. Though I can't really say for certain because I can't remember that with clarity. I just woke up and, hello! What the hell are you doing!
Rape of men or boys by men is more common
I was molested by a male neighbor. He also molested my sister. And then the crazy bastard called me up like three years thinking I must have forgotten acting like everything was just peaches and cream.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 254 of 300 (369857)
12-15-2006 1:19 AM
Reply to: Message 253 by crashfrog
12-15-2006 12:26 AM


No, I'd say you were raped. At least it could be argued that you were raped. You're free to use whatever language you like to describe your own personal story, of course.
Well, yes, I certainly was in the legal sense.
I'm sure that he's certain what he remembers doing to you couldn't possibly have happened, because he's a "good person" and would never do that to a kid.
Well, not that I'm defending him, but he was like 16 or 17 at the time. I've tried to pass it off as him being a confused kid. He knew better though. That's why he tried to lure me in an abandoned house because he didn't want anyone to see. And he tried to pretend like we were just playing a "game." Even at such a young age, I knew something was wrong. I had to get out of there as soon as I could.
That's what I was getting at, before. (I apologize in advance for using your personal story to springboard to my own thoughts.)
No, that's fine. Not a problem.
The abusers and rapists think they're good people, and that what they're doing can't possibly be a bad or harmful thing, because they're good people and they could never do anything like that.
Naturally. Few can admit that to themselves. There is this guy, Nathan Bar Jonah, and he wrote about raping kids then eating them. This is the kind of guy who would swear how great he is, but in the shadows, it was a different story. Seriously, how do you get to the point where you can rape little kids and cannibalize them? It defies logic.
Sorry to hear about your history of abuse. What was done to you really sucked, and you have my empathy. Thank you for sharing your story.
I appreciate the kind words. I don't consider my instances very significant because I managed to get out of the house before something worse happened. It could have been a lot worse. I just feel sorry the ones that don't make it out.
The instance with the two girls happened when I was about 18. And at the time, though I thought it was kind of messed up to be doing what they did, I didn't really think that men could really argue about things like that. But later on I realized that I was just being molded by society to think a certain way, when in reality, that's not okay for anyone to do. If the roles were reversed, I probably would have been in jail. But because it was girls doing that to a guy, my friends just kind of shirked it off as them being playful, while also laughing at me because they weren't very attractive.

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