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Message 82 of 1197 (891528)
02-01-2022 4:43 PM
Reply to: Message 81 by Taq
02-01-2022 4:37 PM


Re: How to tell?
Old Intelligent Design + More Cowbell = New Intelligent Design
Tricky!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 87 of 1197 (891535)
02-01-2022 7:32 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by dwise1
02-01-2022 5:57 PM


Re: How to tell?
dwise1 writes:
It is far worse than that if you have devoted yourself to the typical creationist fallacious "logic" that your religious faith is based on the false dichotomy that it's either evolution or your creationism such that if evolution is true then your religion is false. Your recent silly "challenges" strongly indicate that that is indeed the case; eg:
MrID Rebel writes:
YOU WILL DENOUNCE Evolution and you will support me if you cannot answer your own post, and I will give you how the new ID could answer that simple categorization of two extremes - for origin topic, AGREE? .. ohhh, if you read my original OP, you had already answered that...
That was the best paragraph so far. I did a double take and a WTF when I first read it. It was like hearing a neophyte Jesus Freak from 1976.
Realistically, I feel confident that MrID will never be an intellectual threat to any science and that he will not understand anything you wrote.
His genes are potentially still in the mix and the thought of him influencing the intellectual development of children saddens me.
And there are still a huge shitbag full of Christian churches spewing this crap over every communications system they can contaminate, but they rarely stay for long periods on forums where they are repeatedly asked for evidence.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 96 of 1197 (891587)
02-04-2022 10:21 AM
Reply to: Message 91 by MrIntelligentDesign
02-04-2022 2:58 AM


Re: Zenodo?
Guys, science must answer this question: is biological cell intelligently designed or not?
Science has answered that already. Biological cells are NOT designed.
You continue to fail to answer the question.
How do you tell if living organisms are designed or natural? What criteria do you use to determine that?
Since you are lazy to personally research the topic of intelligence in science, then, I had to give you FREE info of my discoveries.
You are too lazy to answer the questions.
How do you tell if living organisms are designed or natural? What criteria do you use to determine that?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 101 of 1197 (891610)
02-05-2022 11:04 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by vimesey
02-05-2022 3:06 AM


Re: How to tell?
This is a quotation from one of the uploaded diatribes he links to:
(Sorry, I did not include the whole chapter since it would be too long for you.
Lol! I am lazy to copy, you know. Lol)
Also from the "paper" submitted to Nature.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 104 of 1197 (891616)
02-05-2022 12:44 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by dwise1
02-05-2022 11:43 AM


Re: How to tell?
I suspect that almost all of the alleged rejections of creationist papers never occurred, because they were never submitted to actual scientific journals.
I did see, a few years ago, that after a dragonfly paleontologist announced that he believed in ID and joined the Discovery Institute none of his colleagues wanted to work on projects with him. No one wants to co-author papers with him, even though there is absolutely no mention of ID in those papers. I don't know if citations of his work has dropped or not, though.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 112 of 1197 (891761)
02-10-2022 6:42 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by MrIntelligentDesign
02-10-2022 3:46 AM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
I think that I am right. I think I nailed it. That is why I am the only scientist who is challenging anyone to fight me scientifically...
You are trying to convince a bunch of science nerds that you are a scientist, Dimwit. We can all see that you are a pathetic fraud!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 118 of 1197 (891775)
02-10-2022 8:27 PM
Reply to: Message 115 by MrIntelligentDesign
02-10-2022 7:43 PM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
Just tell them to read my science article, put up or shut up!
You don't have any science articles. We would know, because we're science nerds and you are not!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 119 of 1197 (891776)
02-10-2022 8:29 PM
Reply to: Message 114 by MrIntelligentDesign
02-10-2022 7:41 PM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
But I will be submitting my new article in science journals this month or early next month titled "Scientific Falsification of ToE and Introducing ToE's Replacement"...
I bet you don't!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 120 of 1197 (891777)
02-10-2022 8:38 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by MrIntelligentDesign
02-10-2022 7:32 PM


Re: What do the Reviews of MrID's Book Say?
I understand fully. I think supporters of ToE do not understand Biology.
Oh good! Can you please explain ERV insertions in genomes and how they can be used to create phylogenies?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 132 of 1197 (891807)
02-11-2022 9:13 PM
Reply to: Message 131 by AZPaul3
02-11-2022 9:09 PM


All quacked up...

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 141 of 1197 (891820)
02-12-2022 1:37 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by Tangle
02-12-2022 9:54 AM


There is NO Power in the New Intelligent Design...
By now we all know that MrID cannot ever present an argument to challenge the Theory of Evolution, or even some pathetic caricature of evolution that exists only in his mind, because "EVOLUTION" is just a bad word to him. He has no understanding whatsoever that the Theory of Evolution is the Science of Biology and that it is impossible to study life without taking evolution into account.
That being said, I do think it is funny to see what he will say next.
MrID writes:
There are many ways to solve problems in science, and I think I know how to do it...
In this case at least, we know that a mind was not horribly wasted.
Tangle writes:
So you think that all of current science is wrong? And that you - who can barely string a coherent sentence together can sort it all out?
I doubt that he could even convince any creationists or ID nutters and they are preprogramed to believe crap.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 147 of 1197 (891830)
02-12-2022 5:27 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by MrIntelligentDesign
02-12-2022 3:31 PM


Re: There is NO Power in the New Intelligent Design...
MrID writes:
I knew the strengths and weaknesses of ToE, maybe you really don't.
You are mistaken. If YOU know the weakness of the Theory of Evolution, then WE would know them too and we would have already fixed them, just like all the weaknesses discovered in the past with the theory were corrected.
MrID writes:
I am not going to fight in a battle that I am not going to win, especially in science.
Yes, I agree! You will never win this battle, especially in science!
MrID writes:
I had been studying this topic from 2005 AD
Really? You must be slow. You don't even know the basics of evolution yet.
MrID writes:
and publishing many books and articles, reshaping my minds and correcting in the process!
Not that anyone can find.
MrID writes:
Next time, if there will be another Dover-Trial-like legal battle in science, call me and see who will win!
Dover was not a legal battle in science, it was a legal battle in a court of law.
The scientific battle was won by science long before the Dover trial.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 149 of 1197 (891863)
02-15-2022 1:04 AM
Reply to: Message 148 by MrIntelligentDesign
02-15-2022 12:59 AM


Re: There is NO Power in the New Intelligent Design...
You really do not know the ToE well...
Oh really, please enlighten us.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 153 of 1197 (891868)
02-15-2022 6:59 PM
Reply to: Message 152 by AZPaul3
02-15-2022 4:44 PM


Re: Got Any ID?
Must be busy getting all those papers submitted to science journals for publication...

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 155 of 1197 (891870)
02-15-2022 7:11 PM
Reply to: Message 154 by AZPaul3
02-15-2022 7:08 PM


Re: Got Any ID?
Yep, bitterly disappointed.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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