Romney the Bully

Gotta head out and will address the rest later, but... Judging by the rest of the crap you wrote, no I was not. I'm a man, I fight back. I stand up to bullies and I'm quite proud of that.- Oni

The irony of that statement makes me giggle - OniEdited by onifre, : No reason given.

I didn't say calling the cops makes you a pussy, I said YOU calling a group of dudes holding a guy down and cutting his hair as a prank at a prep school "assault" makes YOU a pussy. If YOU want to scream "assault" in every situation, like in my example of pushing you at a mall, then YOU sir are the pussy.See, it's about YOU, not the gay kid who probably fought back for all we know.Nor was I calling the victim a pussy like Rahvin keeps crying about.You're both so caught up in your own self-righteous bullshit that you can't comprehend what's being said to you.Although getting that lunatic rant from Rahvin was well worth the misunderstanding. - OniEdited by onifre, : No reason given.

I wasn't, but that's what you wanted to read into it because you're too caught up in your own bullshit to understand what the fuck is being said.I was calling crashfrog a pussy IF he was calling cutting a kids hair "assault".He said it was assault, and I said yeah it's assault if you wanna be a pussy about it. Nothing to do with the victim, at all. Not even close to it. But you read into it as though I was. Why? Oh yeah, you're so above those primitive displays of male dominance so you sit back and judge it from a computer screen. You're sooo cool dude. Can I be your online best friend?- Oni (The COMEDIAN) Edited by onifre, : No reason given.Edited by onifre, : No reason given.

Sure, if you want to be a pussy about it. Call the cops. You are well within your rights to do so."Hi, officer. These four guys cut my bangs, can you arrest them please?" NO! You panic and memorize faces so you can describe it to the cops when you finally stop crying.Fighting back with your fists is male monkey dominance blah, blah, blah.- OniEdited by onifre, : No reason given.Edited by onifre, : No reason given.

There are situations in which fighting back with the cops is warrented. Of course there are. I have not stated otherwise.If I saw my girlfriend being raped I would fight at that very moment, and then of course involve the cops. I could not however sit back and do nothing and just remember faces. It would not be a natural instinct.But in the case of some dudes holding me down and cutting my hair, come on, cops? Really? Personally I feel I can handle that myself. Especially at a prep school. But if you also feel that situation warrents YOU calling the cops and calling it assault, go for it. But in my eyes that some pussy shit to do.Cops have better things to do than worry about your hair being cut by some rich kids at a prep school. In fact, the cops I know would call you a pussy for not handling it.- Oni

I'm surprised it has been met with such resistance. Fuck, it was fun to fight when I was a kid. Yeah well, he's too above that sort of lower primate activity of fighting with fist-to-cuffs, didn't you know? He's too smart for that. He can't be bothered with it. It's the only way to support his ridiculous position of calling a prep school prank "assault with a deadly weapon." You should go back and read crashfrog's "If a BLACK MAN...blah, blah, blah" analogy. These two are really pulling out all the cliche's in this thread. I think he couldn't get past the word "pussy" and stopped comprehending from that point on.He accused me repeatedly of being a comedian like a lunatic, which I have no idea still what the hell he was driving at. But it was great to see the cool, calm, collect Rahvin lose his shit. - Oni

Was the hair cut that bad?- Oni

Because I didn't call the victim that. I would have sympathy for someone going through that. But I would also advise them to man up and fight back and not cower behind the law nor take advantage of the law in such a petty case of a prep school prank.As the case goes, the kid didn't do that. Probably because he saw the difference too. Technically, me pushing you at the mall to get to a shirt I want is assault. But if you came up to me as my friend and told me you were just assaulted, then told me it was because someone pushed you, I'd have a hard time agreeing with you. Even though you are technically right about calling it assault if this was brought to court.There are degrees of it. In the courtroom, or in a law class, techincality matters. In the street you know it doesn't. Calling a shove at the mall assault is accurate in law classes, not in the street. So while a spade is a spade in the classroom, it is not a spade in the street. You can still call it a prank, absorb all the trauma, and fight back. What you want is to make this victim sound like MORE of a victim and to make Romney sound like MORE of a terrible person.You are using over dramatic words such as "assault" and "deadly weapon" to make "prank" and "cutting hair" sound worse than it is. And THAT is disingenuous. While I sympathize with what you went through, I can assure you a lot of what you're feeling as far as humiliation, etc., would go away if you had stood up for yourself.You say all of that as though it makes you special in some way, as though I wasn't bullied, jumped in school by ten dudes, picked on for wearing glasses, made fun of for being in drama, fucked with for having long hair, beat up because I was with the girl some other guy simply wanted... All of those things happen to most of us. But I fought back. I didn't go to the authorities and make myself the victim to seek justice that I could have taken myself. It is what makes you who you are as an adult, in my opinion.We have the burden of being men. We also need to act like it. Because you were over reacting to something I didn't say. It is not like you to react on emotion and not comprehend. I stand up to bullies means I would have stood up for YOU in any givien situation had I walked in on you being assaulted.What we are discussing however is the use of words to make a case against Mitt Romney seem worse. You can just say, Romney played a prank on a gay kid for being different. That's already shitty to do. Instead you are opting for the over dramitic assault with a deadly weapon to add sting to it. Probably not, since he went through it. But if he didn't call it assault with a deadly weapon, and instead called it a prank. Then years later it was being evaluated and people decided to call it assault with a deadly weapon, I would call those people pussies.Hope you see the difference. And again, I have not said you and crash are wrong in what you have accurately described as assault with a deadly weapon, in the most technical of terms. But so would be me pushing you at the mall. And since there are degrees in real life situations outside of the classroom, technical talk, I can see the difference between actual assault with a deadly weapon and a prep school prank, or a push at the mall.- Oni

I'm sure they did, since it went so far. I'm also sure he wasn't the first kid they did it to since as you say it was standard hazing. So perhaps the suicide had nothing to do with the prank itself? Maybe this kid had serious issues that set him off into such a terrible ending, and the prank was just something that got caught up in it?- Oni

I wanted to signal this one out by itself.If you were assaulted by girls, and you did NOTHING - just sat back and let things happen to you that you didn't want to have happen to you - then you are either a pussy or you enjoyed it. To just sit there and take it, then expect sympathy for it, is pathetic.If you say, I fought back with everything I had but I was over-taken, then ok. For fuck sake at least you stood up for yourself. But what kind of person sits there and does nothing and gives the excuse that you would have gotten in more trouble?- Oni

Yes, well, killing yourself over a bald head seems to indicate much more serious issues.I believe I just feel for my own act, if I wasn't so sure you are being honest.- Oni