For example, the Christian religions all agree that only men should make coffee. Now that restriction might seem illogical at first glance. Why shouldn't a woman make coffee? Is there some logical reason (as there is for why women shouldn't do the laundry or cook or put the toilet paper on the roll) or is it simply some convention?To understand this restriction we really have to look back in history, and what we find is that this particular restriction, this reservation of the right to make coffee, this absolute mandate that women MUST NOT make the coffee that there must have been some major reason.After all, not only was the Commandment that women not make the coffee so strong and pervasive that Christians accept it as a basic part of their Canon but Jews adopted as their designation ...Edited by jar, : fix code

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The question though is about religion and logic. You do agree though that ALL Jews, even today hold the proscription against women making coffee, don't you?

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Sure seems so. It is, as I said, so important it was made part of the Christian Canon and adopted as an identity by Jews. It is perhaps the most pervasive designation for all Jews regardless of where they live or which sect they belong to.

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The answer is actually in the message. Those who can see, let them see.

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A whole book of the New Testament is devoted to it. Also, as I have said, the Jews felt so strongly about it that they adopted it as a personal identifier.

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Shame on you. After all:

HeBrews

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HeBrews

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jar writes:

HeBrews

and mjfloresta replies: ROTFLMAOThank you, thank you, thank you. You have made my day!

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Seriously. I really needed that.

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Well, no. I do not think Islam or Judaism or Hinduism or Confucianism or Taoism or Buddhism or Satanism or Wicca or any other religion is illogical. Again, simply a false dichotomy.All religions can be both partially right and partially wrong.As I have explained to you before, religions are but Maps. There will be places where they correspond very closely to the Territory, and in other areas be incorrect or out of date.

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Or they are both wrong or they are both partially right and partially wrong.

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It is the religions that can be partially right and partially wrong.Islam and Christianity are two religions.Islam and Christianity have many beliefs where they are in agreement as well as areas of disagreement.Many questions such as the divinity of Jesus cannot be tested or verified by anyone living.Other things such as ways of treating others can be tested and verified.Where such things, such teachings can be tested against the Territory they can be confirmed or refuted.The other untestable ares will remain as unknowns.

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Yes. I have said all along that Christianity and Islam are different religions. Those of us who are Christians believe that Jesus before he was here on Earth, and after his ascension, is divine.Muslims do not.It is likely that one of us is wrong.They are two different religions. No, not simply morality. Morality is a learned response. It, like all other cultural traditions and even knowledge itself grows and evolves over time. We can only verify such parts of the Map against the history of morality over time, the record of what resulted from certain stances of morality, and our own personal inner sense of what is right in a given situation. If you do not also consider the fact that you might be wrong, you are not being honest with yourself. Okay, that is a reasonable position to hold. But remember, even if we had absolutely conclusive proof that he did exist, it would not speak to the issue of his divinity.

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Well yes and no.This Sunday the sermon during the current cycle was on John 1 and the meaning of "Incarnation". Father Earl, our priest (actually ordained as a Lutheran) was pointing out some of the different views of Jesus when compared to other traditions.There are many tales of gods walking among men, but generally they are gods pretending to be human. Father Earl was pointing out how different the incarnation of Jesus is compared to those tales. Jesus is not God pretending to be man while here on Earth, but actually just human, with all the limitations that includes.He even used a reference to "nudge, nudge" and how can you not love a sermon that references Monty Python.We see this also in the Nicene Creed. Made man. Not pretending to be man, or part man part god, but Man.So as a Christian I believe that before His birth, and after His Ascension, Jesus is totally divine, however while He lived among us, He was totally Human.

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I don't find it illogical but then you might. You are not me and it is not simply reasonable, but logical that you will hold different beliefs than I do.

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