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inkorrekt
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Message 122 of 204 (337085)
07-31-2006 10:16 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Faith
07-27-2006 2:24 PM


God always answers. He always talks to us.
3 years ago, I was facing a very difficult situation. I felt like sitting in a box. I could not even pray. Oppression was so heavy. At that time, I was in a supermarket. In my desperation, I cried out,"GOD, where are you"? I turned around an aisle. In front of me, there was an angel waiting for me. It was a 2 year old girl dressed just like an angel. She came to me and began to talk. I did not understand her baby talk. But, she talked to me. I told her that she was pretty and walked away. She did not leave me. She came towards me again and began to talk. I ws shocked. Of all the people, why did she chose me? There was no reason for her to chase me twice. Her mother was telling her to leave people alone. She defied her mother's orders. Why? It was God who answered my cry and sent this angel to cheer me up. The moment I realized this I hugged this little angel and said good bye to her. Then, I went back to her mother and explained what happened.
If you are an atheist, you may say this was a rare coincidence. Why would she pick me up of all the people? Why did she chase me twice? This was not a rare coincidence.But, it was God's appointment. When God answers, He defies the natural order. This little angel defied her mother to cheer me up.
Another incident: I had few german friends. Oneday, my friend's wife was prompted to go to a house and give certain amount of money to the man. She looked for the address and knocked at the door. The man came and opened the door. She told him that the Lord sent her to give that money. That is exactly the same amount of money he desperately needed. He was shocked. He did not understand anything. Later, she explained what happened. This man desperately needed this money (Exact amount).He could not understand how she know the home address and the exact amount of money she needed. She talked to him about God and this man became a believer.

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inkorrekt
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Message 148 of 204 (337323)
08-01-2006 11:14 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by riVeRraT
08-01-2006 7:49 AM


Re: evil
No, you can hear from God. God always speaks. But we have wax in our ears so that we selectively avoid God.

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inkorrekt
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Message 196 of 204 (353321)
09-30-2006 6:18 PM
Reply to: Message 190 by nator
08-03-2006 6:10 PM


Re: touchy
1) Who is a christian? Is it some one who reads the Bible? Or is it someone who goes to church? If this is how a person is defiend as a christian, then the closeness of the numbers is self explanatory. A dog sitting in a garage does not become a car.
2) Christians are also human beings. They have the same weaknesses like anyone else. Christians are not perfect. So, not all of them, but some of them will commit crimes and go to prison.Yet the numbers do not match.
3) Who makes these polls? For example, in a local newspaper, there was afull page article on the polling of the attitudes of US citizens towards illegal immigrants. The poll showed that 85% of US citizens want the illegal immigrants to be granted citizenship. However, I am yet to find out people (US citizens) in favor of illegal immigration. What the newspaper did was to poll illegal immigrants only. Who is polling? Who are being polled? What are the questions? All these factors determine the outcome of any poll. On this basis, I would state that the polling of christian prisoners and non christian prisoners and general population is flawed.After all Statistics can be used to prove as well as disprove anything and polling is a simple statistical tool.
Edited by inkorrekt, : important explanation was missing

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inkorrekt
Member (Idle past 6111 days)
Posts: 382
From: Westminster,CO, USA
Joined: 02-04-2006


Message 201 of 204 (354988)
10-07-2006 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 197 by nator
10-02-2006 10:11 AM


Re: touchy
OFF TOPIC - DO NOT RESPOND
A Christian is someone who calles themselves a Christian, as far as I'm concerned
Christian in the true sense is someone who has surrendered his life to Jesus Christ, who has also acknowledged Jesus Christ as one who died as a sacrifice for his sins and a person who has allowed God to transform his heart. Such a person can communicate with God.
However it is a fashion to call themselves as Christians without any convictions. Therefore all those who call themselves as Christians are not christians in the true sense. Therefore this poll concerning christians and the prison population does not reflect the true number.
Well, I only gave an example of FLAWED polling using the statistics on the attitudes on Illegal immigration. The comparison is only on the type of polling and not the emotional, personal attitudes or inner convictions.
If a non christian is polled and he says he is a christian, this does not reflect the true number of Christians. I am very active in politics. Sofar, I have never been polled. I am not alone. there are lots of others who have never been polled. The question once again is who is being polled and what is the sample size.
Unless a random sampling of a very very large polulation is studied,using proper controls these resutls have no meaning.
Finally, all those who call themselves as Christians are not christians. However, there is a considerable population of people who have serious convictions and their lives reflect their convictions and these are the people who TALK TO GOD on a daily basis.
Edited by AdminNWR, : off topic

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inkorrekt
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From: Westminster,CO, USA
Joined: 02-04-2006


Message 202 of 204 (359312)
10-27-2006 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 197 by nator
10-02-2006 10:11 AM


Re: touchy
Polls are nothing but, simple statistical tools to study a given polulation. The results can change dramatically depending on the nature of the question. The reason I brought up the issue of immigration is only as an example of a flawed study. Let me elaborate this. If I survey a majorioty of the illegal immigrants, they are going to approve illegal immigration as it includes them. If I survey those who are opposed to illegal immigration, I will get the opposite results. If I have to show that illegal immigration is approved by 55% of the population, then I have to adjust the sampling between those who approve this as well as those who oppose it. By properly matching the number of sublects from both the groups, I can manipulate the end results of the poll.
Applying the same analogy to those christians who go to prison, the result could be exactly the opposite if the study is designed with a large number of subjects representing real christians as well as those who are Christians ONLY BY NAME.
So, what is important is who is doing the polls and what are the questions and who are the subjects. The results can be manipulated by altering these parameters. Here is something interesting. Many many yers ago, I was a civilian invloved in Defense research project. We were assigned the job of studying the nutritional requirements of troops in the battle field. We did the study for 3 months in a mock battle field. We identified lots of pilferage of food and our results showed that they were getting insufficient calories. However, the Director wanted to cut down the rations. There was no justification as our results were contradicting his assumptions. They actually needed increase in the rations.
So, he assigned the statistician to work the numbers backwards till he was given the results he wanted. When he cut the ration, he was given an award for saving the defense budget!!!!!!!!!
So much for the Polling.

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