Why is Israel getting away with these atrocities?

It is a good picture of where the Palestinians leaqrned about terrorist bombing. They learned the value of terrorist attacks from the Jews.It is picture of the King David Hotel.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

The argument about Islam has been supported by history and by references to their authoritative books and interpretations of them by Muslim scholars, as well as by ex-Muslims galore who ought to know. PC simply means an objection on formulaic grounds rather than based on facts, against the idea that a whole religion could be wrong. Has nothing to do with persons, many of whom are not fundamentalists. It is about the history and the official writings, facts, facts, facts. This is simply inconceivable by the moral equivalence formula of PC, and I see no basis for your accusations except such an irrational formula, since I've said nothing to justify them.

I see. Because the Irgun did that, then what? Nobody has said, as far as I know, that the Muslims invented terrorism, but they have certainly made it their MO, and it is completely in keeping with their history and their holy books, which can't be said about the bombing of the King David. Back to the Tamil, I don't see the relevance there either. The IRA have operated by terrorism. Likewise the Weathermen and other groups in the US in the sixties. I guess we could make a little chart to sort it all out but what would be the point?

but they aren't facts!unless you speak arabic and are trained in understanding koranic text, you have no idea what the facts are. what you know is translation and translation is invention and interpretation and is anathema to muslims.the facts are that some 20% of the world's population are muslims but the number of terrorists are merely in the maybe tens of thousands. those are facts. those are reality. the rest is ink on a page and means DICK ALL just like all ink on all pages. jesus says to turn the other cheek and yet so many call for the destruction of muslims. see? ink on a page that means dick all.

The point is that historically people us what they have to defend themselves. The Palestinians are doing nothing that Hindus, Jews, Christians and even anarchists have not done. you have often claimed that it is a function of the religion, but no matter how many times we ask you to post the Qur'an verses in context, you have been unable to do so. In addition, there are Islamic Nations like Saudi Arabia, Qutar, Kuwait, Egypt, Jordan, Indonesia, Turkey that are allies and supporters of the US and that work to fight terrorism.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

My sources are Muslim.

You know very well that the jihadic scriptures of the koran have been given many many times and much historical background showing that violence is the literal interpretation of them. Again and again and again the fact that there are Muslims who do not subscribe to the fundamentalist reading has been acknowledged. That does not change the fact that their history and writings literally interpreted justify the violence.

In fact this is not true. There has been much wailing and gnashing of teeth but no one on this board has ever addressed the refutations provided to the many quote mined and bare assertions of the position for which you espouse.You are just merely dodging. You have merely switched tactics from the, "I'll get back to you" move to the equally ineffective, "It has already been shown many times so I don't need to bother to support my position."Where is that verse Faith? You know the one in the Koran where it says to kill all the Jews? We are all eagerly waiting.

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Of course, biblical creationists are committed to belief in God's written Word, the Bible, which forbids bearing false witness; --AIG (lest they forget)

immaterial. your sources are translated.

a literal interpretation of the bible supports killing all non-jews in the middle east.

Faith says. No I don't faith. I do know that you have been asked many times to support that assertion and have never done so. Exactly, just as many Christians understand that there never was a world-wide flood and only certain fundamentalist Christians hold to that fiction, most Moslems do not see any call to violence in Islam. Except so far neither you or anyone else has been able to show support for either that position or the fact that Islam is any more violent than any other religious group.And NONE of this has anything to do with the justification for Israel's current behavior.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

I suspect that means the opposite of what you intended.Can you try to avoid these confusing multiple negatives?

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Compassionate conservatism - bringing you a kinder, gentler torture chamber

yes, sorry. i was wrong about "palestine" being a recent term -- it's a romanicization of "philistia." but it is, esentially, the same word. the hebrew spelling has not varied.

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sounds like pure right-wing fundie neo-con propaganda to me. as i've demonstrated here before, all of your "academic" points are nicely paraphrased in chick tracts. guess what kinds of sources make these arguments?no the academic ones.tell me, faith, have you ever read the qu'ran? even in translation? and "racism" simply means that you make gross generalizations about entire ethnic groups. no, generalizations rarely are specific. we've repeatedly seen you demonstrate your understanding of the word "fact." "facts" like the shoddy and fallacious argument that allah is a moon god who was formerly worshipped as part of a pantheon. another chick-tract-point, and totally ignorant of basic qu'ranic law. palestine blowing people up = bad.
israel blowing people up = good?i'm sorry, but dead people are dead people. yes, faith, murder is morally equivalent to murder. i don't care if you think one side is justified, or one side has claim to land because you think their god is real. my irrational formula that says that mutual hatred is the very cause of this problem, and that more hatred does not help?

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You are equating murder of civilians with acts of war and defense. False moral equivalence.You are calling legitimate self-defense "murder" and treating murder as legitimate self-defense. False moral equivalence.No, dead people are not dead people. Motives and cause make the difference. Just a blind formulaic statement that denies reality and a few thousand years of the development of law as well. All of you here are relating to this situation from a totally irrational fantasy position. Blind adherence to a false dogma. False moral equivalence."Mutual hatred" is just a pat formula. It just glosses over the realities and history of the situation. False moral equivalence.