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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
This "leftist media" is a myth of the far right (media). And as I already said, and now repeat, the "centrist" media is a myth of the far left.
Now let's get back to the topic eh? Do you agree with Phelps? Do you agree with the concept of invading a funeral to force a religious message down peoples throats? No.
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Yes, we know people by their fruits, good or bad. It's how we treat them, or act towards them that is being screwd up by people like phelps.
Take a look at Why is Israel getting away with these atrocities?. What I find striking, is the racist attitude of some of our fundamentalist posters. It is by those fruits that I know them. Compassionate conservatism - bringing you a kinder, gentler torture chamber
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Weird. I guess talking about ideological causes of actions amounts to "racism." Weird.
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
This "leftist media" is a myth of the far right (media). And as I already said, and now repeat, the "centrist" media is a myth of the far left. I want media that reports the truth. Instead we have a media that panders to the right, apparently out of fear of Bush and his gang of fascist thugs. By the way, in the past I have voted for both Reagan and Bush Sr., for president. But that was before the Republican party went over to the dark side. Compassionate conservatism - bringing you a kinder, gentler torture chamber
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
I guess talking about ideological causes of actions amounts to "racism."
No. I was talking about hateful statements made about the Palestinian people. Compassionate conservatism - bringing you a kinder, gentler torture chamber
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 765 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
It's a phony "love" that would lie to people. Indeed.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I'm aware of no hateful statements about the Palestinian people, only analyses of the ideology that drives them.
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
I'm aware of no hateful statements about the Palestinian people, only analyses of the ideology that drives them.
That's already pretty troubling.
Message 28 already denies that Palestinians are persons.
Message 29 denies that Palestinians can have ordinary human feelings. Message 112 also denies that Palestinians can have normal human feelings. I cringe when I see such unchristian statements being made. I cringe all the more when the people who make them consider themselves Christians. Compassionate conservatism - bringing you a kinder, gentler torture chamber
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Thank you for the unbelievable slander. I shall try to learn to rejoice in the misrepresentations of me because God requires that of me. Clearly if someone can misread my clear statements that drastically, something supernatural is afoot.
And by the way, YOUR messages are a perfect example of the kind of judgmentalness that Jesus condemned. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
And by the way, YOUR messages are a perfect example of the kind of judgmentalness that Jesus condemned.
I judged behavior, not persons. Okay, I did make judgemental statements about Bush. But he is a politician, and politicians set themselves up to be judged as part of the democratic process. Compassionate conservatism - bringing you a kinder, gentler torture chamber
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The idea that one can judge the behavior and not the person is a delusion. And I'm not talking about Bush.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1436 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
And as I already said, and now repeat, the "centrist" media is a myth of the far left. And as I already said, and now repeat, the "leftist" media is a myth of the far right. That you think it is "leftist" is only evidence that you are far to the right, not that you are correct. You see the media as being to the left of your views. I see it as being to the right of my views. That means that it is in between. If {in between} is still leftist to you then this is evidence that you are extremely to the right.
No. Good Edited by RAZD, : finished we are limited in our ability to understand by our ability to understand RebelAAmericanOZen[Deist
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
No, I did not judge the victims at all. That's God's prerogative. God takes us all in our time, and I'm sure many of those victims belonged to Him. Sorry faith, you are not an official spokes person for God's actions, and judgements. None of us are. We are but to love God, and love one another. If your actions causes your brother to sin, then don't do it.
God judged the NATION that day Prove it... Matthew 24:5-7 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ,' and will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. So Jesus told us this crap will happen, and He does not mention any judgements, until the final day.
Nothing happens without God Of course not, but that doesn't make it God's judgement.
Are you aware that the Old Testament was "written for our admonition?" I am aware that the OT, is indeed old.
and wouldn't that include the many times it reports that God sent prophets to warn His people and various nations of their coming due for judgment, Yea, the NT also sends a prophet named Jesus who tells us about the judgement on the final day, not all the days inbetween.
Again, death is not always condemnation of a person, Well I don't know how your not condemning them if you are judging why they died.
Believers are forgiven, Mr. Rat, Define believer, but not here, make another thread for it.
Or you believe in a lesser God than the One who reigns. I believe in a greater God than the one your depicting.
It's a phony "love" that would lie to people. You are not loving when you are judging people to hell. And deciding what is God's wrath or not. Jesus didn't come to judge, why are you?
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1475 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Do you have any source for your understanding of Jesus' words or the Bible as a whole than your own reading? That is, are you familiar with any commentaries or a variety of preaching on these subjects you are pronouncing on?
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riVeRraT Member (Idle past 447 days) Posts: 5788 From: NY USA Joined: |
Yes, and I have the Holy Spirit.
I want you to really really pray hard about what it is your saying to people, about God's judgements and wrath. Is it your place to announce such things? Are you even righteous enough to be telling us all this? I know I am not. I had to realize it is not my place to convict anybody of anything. That is the job of the Holy Spirit. People don't need us to tell them right from wrong, God does that for them. It is only up to us to act right, and love, then by the power of God, people will know Him. Some of the best evangilising I have ever done has been done just through love. People know I am Christian, and if they don't know, they can sense something different about me, as long as I am following God's will for me, and asking Him how I should treat situations. All I have to do is be faithful. Let me ask you a question, should we not go to New Orleans now and help them, because God has poured His wrath out on them?
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