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Topic: What are the Degrees of Fundamentalism?
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macaroniandcheese 
Suspended Member (Idle past 3958 days) Posts: 4258 Joined: 05-24-2004
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Message 51 of 229 (331961)
07-15-2006 12:38 PM
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Reply to: Message 23 by Faith 07-12-2006 8:55 PM
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Re: How aware are you Americans?
just because you are far to the right doesn't mean the news is far to the left. there is, really, NO LEFT in this country. only vaguely left centrists. the usa is generally just slightly right of center.
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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 52 of 229 (331962)
07-15-2006 12:42 PM
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Reply to: Message 30 by Faith 07-13-2006 8:46 AM
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Re: God's judgment
Again, death is not always condemnation of a person and in the same breath, you judge the deaths of thousands to be condemnation. shit happens. people do bad things. it doesn't mean god is judging us as a whole. as far as i know, jesus created a personal covenant. jesus didn't say 'whoseover lives in a country that follows my law shall be saved'.
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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 54 of 229 (332021)
07-15-2006 4:27 PM
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Reply to: Message 53 by Faith 07-15-2006 4:20 PM
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Re: God's judgment
but it is judgement for you to decide that something is in fact a prophetic warning and that it is because of (sin x) {not to be confused with cos x}. there is no bible verse saying "in 2001 and 2005 the usa, that doesn't exist yet, will suffer calamities because of their great sin". therefore, you canot, with any certainty whatsoever, claim that these are judgemental calamities. further, it has (i will restate) always been my understanding that jesus created a personal covenant. the mere idea that under the new covenant god would utilize his old ways of mass judgement is bizarre.
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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 57 of 229 (332026)
07-15-2006 4:43 PM
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Reply to: Message 55 by Faith 07-15-2006 4:38 PM
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Re: God's judgment
i suppose indonesia got fucked because they are sinful muslims eh? not all calamity is judgement. and to randomly decide that these were is silly and presumptuous. how about genocides? that's pretty calamitous. was god punishing the jews or the poles or the rwandans for something? how about the american indians? what about the black death? maybe god was punishing europe for being so stupid and uneducated and overly religious eh?
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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 58 of 229 (332027)
07-15-2006 4:46 PM
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Reply to: Message 56 by Faith 07-15-2006 4:41 PM
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Re: God's judgment
before jesus came you couldn't eat pigs, but after jesus came you can! what's the difference between one calamity and one abomination and another? according to my understanding of church doctrine, all judgement is personal. death happens according to plan, but not necessarily for punitive reasons.
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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 62 of 229 (332041)
07-15-2006 5:47 PM
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Reply to: Message 60 by Faith 07-15-2006 5:13 PM
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Re: God's judgment
But nothing happens without God's willing it. Period.
excepting abortions of course.
Always the response to these judgments should be repentance and drawing closer to God. How many do that? i guess it's the difference in understanding. are all calamities judgements? if not, how do you know which are? i certainly don't, so i assume none are and mind my faith business as my own and not the result or cause of anyone else.
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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 94 of 229 (332169)
07-16-2006 10:34 AM
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Reply to: Message 93 by jar 07-16-2006 10:19 AM
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Re: God's judgment
so i guess it's okay to abort illegitimate children. to punish us for our sin by depriving us of our children. so unmarried women, have at! Edited by brennakimi, : No reason given.
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macaroniandcheese 
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Message 96 of 229 (332194)
07-16-2006 12:03 PM
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Reply to: Message 95 by jar 07-16-2006 10:48 AM
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Re: God's judgment
i'm quite aware. i was making a funny. especially since most single women would revel in being deprived of their blessed progeny.
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