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Author Topic:   Pakicetus being presented with webbed feet.
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Message 293 of 305 (265120)
12-02-2005 6:28 PM
Reply to: Message 290 by arachnophilia
12-02-2005 6:11 PM


Re: what kind of webs?
You do realize, by the way, that the evos making the claim of Pakicetus being a cetacean do not claim it had teeth similar to modern whales.
Here is something from Thiwessen's web-site.
Pakiceid teeth look a lot like those of fossil whales, but are unlike those of modern whales. Pakicetids did not live in the sea. The rocks in which their fossils are preserved indicate that the bones were buried in a shallow stream, and that the climate was hot and dry. It is likely that pakicetids waded in these streams.
http://www.neoucom.edu/...Thewissen/whale_origins/index.html
Also, no one to my knowledge claims Pakicetus' teeth were adapted only for eating fish as you claim. You seem to have a lot of false concepts about what your side of the debate claims.

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Message 295 of 305 (265124)
12-02-2005 6:35 PM
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12-02-2005 6:32 PM


Re: cute pics but no real claim on your part
They still were making the argument of relatedness based on teeth, and teeth that are not peculiar to aquatic animals by the way (some bats have similar teeth), and moreover, there is no claim Pakicetus was adapted only for eating fish that I know of.
Certainly, Thiwessen doesn't claim that.
Plus, you mentioned sharks having similar teeth, and Great Whites are known to feed on seals. So the whole teeth claims on your part are way overblown, and fact is these teeth are not similar to modern whales anyway.
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Message 297 of 305 (265126)
12-02-2005 6:40 PM
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12-02-2005 6:32 PM


Re: cute pics but no real claim on your part
Looks similar to a croc to me.
Crocs eat land animals, not just fish.
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Message 298 of 305 (265127)
12-02-2005 6:47 PM


comparison woth crocodiles
crocodile
a cetacean skull
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Message 300 of 305 (265130)
12-02-2005 6:50 PM


What is this arach?
a pseudo-orca, right
here's the skull of a modern german shepherd:
another cetacean?
crocodile
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Message 301 of 305 (265132)
12-02-2005 6:58 PM
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12-02-2005 6:50 PM


Re: cute pics but no real claim on your part
Your argument is bogus because of the following claim.
and clearly indicate that it eats things that live in water, and ONLY things that live in water.
Please substantiate that claim or retract it and admit you made a mistake.
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