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DC85 Member Posts: 876 From: Richmond, Virginia USA Joined: |
Often times we hear that without God life has no meaning... I guess I can understand that logic (although I don't agree with it).
Our purpose is to serve and love God correct? Is God's purpose to serve himself? This message has been edited by DC85, 10-13-2004 08:55 PM My site The Atheist Bible My New Debate Fourms!
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almeyda Inactive Member |
Is God's purpose to serve himself? Yes it is. Well not to serve himself as such. But in Revelation 21:6-8, we see that it is done. The eternal purpose of God to gather a holy, devoted people for Himself is accomplished. BEGINNING: God is the origin and source of all things END: He is the goal or aim of all things (because naturally its the only thing that matters seeing how as soon as we die everything we ever did in life comes to absolutely nothing, God is the only thing that will last forever) WATER OF LIFE: Represents eternal sustenance and provision FREELY: Available freely by faith, and our Lord Jesus. HE THAT OVERCOMETH: Is the one who has a geniune, saving, perservering faith. INHERIT: Who who overcomes shall inherit the kingdom. LAKE OF FIRE/SECOND DEATH: Sinners, who have shown and lived their rebellion against God by their lifestyle of sin, have already been cast into the second death. (Mark 9:44) "And it shall come to pass that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear" Isaiah 65:24 Its hard to pinpoint exactly what Gods purpose is. But he is self existent, He is the unity of all existence, He is eternal in relationship to time, He is unlimited in relationship to the immensity of space. I dont think any of us will truly understand who or what God is. "The Lord is good unto them that wait for him, to the soul that seeketh him" Lamentations 3:25
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Primordial Egg Inactive Member |
almeyda writes: The eternal purpose of God to gather a holy, devoted people for Himself is accomplished. Why was this His purpose? Who gave it to Him? PE This message has been edited by Primordial Egg, 10-14-2004 06:52 AM
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Dr Jack Member Posts: 3514 From: Immigrant in the land of Deutsch Joined: Member Rating: 9.2 |
God is the only thing that will last forever How is then that Christians can have eternal life?
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DC85 Member Posts: 876 From: Richmond, Virginia USA Joined: |
Exactly if you need a creator to give you purpose. What is God's? How can it have one?
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
If you asked a two year old what his parents purpose was, what do you think you'd get as an answer?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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DC85 Member Posts: 876 From: Richmond, Virginia USA Joined: |
Jar I think I get what you’re trying to say... "My parents are here to take care of me" However this doesn't address the problem. They claim "without God we have no purpose" So how can God himself have purpose without a creator? Who assigned his purpose? This is the flaw in the logic
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
As a two year old, I could not go anywhere without my parents giving me a ride. Does that mean that they cannot go somewhere without some superior being giving them a ride?
Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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DC85 Member Posts: 876 From: Richmond, Virginia USA Joined: |
yes it does according to many christians.... According to them all things need purpose. They see God as the two year old does although it isn't true
This message has been edited by DC85, 10-14-2004 08:35 PM My site The Atheist Bible My New Debate Fourms!
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jar Member (Idle past 425 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
yes it does according to many christians. I'm not sure that is correct. Let's step through it. You say that Christians say that GOD gives them purpose. So far are we together? By the way, if you click on the specific reply button (red) below the post you're responding to it will notify me of your response. Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1375 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
according to ancient traditions, a spirit's name is its duty and function. if you know its name, you can control it. this is probably what moses had in mind when he asked god what his name was. but god answered moses in a sort of play on words. the name god told moses was an obscure form of the verb "to be."
so god's purpose for being is being. according to the bible, anyways.
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DC85 Member Posts: 876 From: Richmond, Virginia USA Joined: |
quote:But what is wrong with that for us? Christians claim all things need purpose... Why doesn't God? My site The Atheist Bible My New Debate Fourms!
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almeyda Inactive Member |
Why was this His purpose? Who gave it to Him? Because he wanted a creature made in his image. That also had a soul. Which meant that this creature could rationally and spiritually live with God. He wanted a creature that could love God, on its own freewill. Sin is the barrier between us and God. But God killed his own son as a sacrifice, so that we could be forgiven. Christ took the judgement of sin, that was originally meant for us. And now, the only ones who will suffer this judgement will be those who rejected the son of God, Nobody gave it to him. He is self-existence, is, was, to come. And the rest of it, cant remember. This message has been edited by almeyda, 10-15-2004 04:30 AM
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almeyda Inactive Member |
You missed the point. Christians are sons of God, and will receive the gift of eternal life. Through God, and only through God. God is the only thing that will last forever, because this world and its lusts will all pass away. Our lives are like wind, that appears for a little while and then goes away. We waggle along clinging onto life until death takes us away, yet many humans believe we are in charge of destiny.
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arachnophilia Member (Idle past 1375 days) Posts: 9069 From: god's waiting room Joined: |
But what is wrong with that for us? Christians claim all things need purpose... Why doesn't God? i don't understand. why does anything need purpose? meaning? let alone god who defines other purposes and meanings? similarly, i discovered the meaning of life at some point in high school. namely, to live it and quit worrying about its meaning.
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