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Tusko
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Message 16 of 75 (150069)
10-15-2004 7:49 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by arachnophilia
10-15-2004 5:19 AM


You could be right - maybe nothing needs a "purpose" in this way. In which case, maybe we as a species don't need the concept of a god or gods. Perhaps the idea of supernatural deities is successful merely because they give our lives meaning by placing our puny existences into the context of an eternal schema.
I'm not sure; I think this is what DC is saying. It kind of makes sense to me. I guess its not a very strong argument against the existence of God. Its more specifically a response to people who say: "there has to be something more than just this life, or else whats the point?"
I suppose the obvious objection is that people don't believe for such a mundane reason, and that faith can legitimately be founded on grounds other than the uncomfortable reality of a scared creature facing the finity of its own existence. Personally though, worry about death -- the ultimate unknown -- seems to be something very fundamental to our outlook. The sheer amount of faiths that feature some kind of an afterlife seem to me at least to point to gods as merely a comforting product of epic wishful thinking.
Does that make sense?

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Tusko
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Message 43 of 75 (150272)
10-16-2004 10:41 AM
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10-15-2004 10:45 PM


Woah! I don't get it Jar. Are you saying that because we get purpose externally, like two year olds do, it has to be from a Christian god? That seems a bit of a jump. Sorry - I would have asked this earlier if I'd read what you'd said.

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Tusko
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Message 70 of 75 (150840)
10-18-2004 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by jar
10-17-2004 11:16 PM


Sorry Jar, I've been away a couple of days. I wasn't faulting the logic you were presenting. However, I am getting a bit nit-picky. I'll admit why: it feels as though you are about to wield the big scary weapon of Logic (I'm not sure whether for good or ill!), and I don't want to allow you any ground I don't think you should have.
Specifically, I'm questioning if 2-year-olds get all their "purpose" from their parents (aren't the things they do to please themselves - their self-chosen "purposes" often just as fulfilling as those imposed upon them)
I think the real problem that we have is understanding what a purpose is.
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Tusko
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Message 71 of 75 (150841)
10-18-2004 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 65 by jar
10-17-2004 11:16 PM


Sorry Jar, I've been away a couple of days. I wasn't faulting the logic you were presenting. However, I am getting a bit nit-picky. I'll admit why: it feels as though you are about to wield the big scary weapon of Logic (I'm not sure whether for good or ill!), and I don't want to allow you any ground I don't think you should have.
Specifically, I'm questioning if 2-year-olds get all their "purpose" from their parents (aren't the things they do to please themselves - their self-chosen "purposes" often just as fulfilling as those imposed upon them)
I think the real problem that we have is understanding what a purpose is.
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