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Message 1 of 75 (149792)
10-13-2004 10:36 PM


Often times we hear that without God life has no meaning... I guess I can understand that logic (although I don't agree with it).
Our purpose is to serve and love God correct? Is God's purpose to serve himself?
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Message 5 of 75 (150001)
10-14-2004 8:50 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by Primordial Egg
10-14-2004 7:51 AM


Exactly if you need a creator to give you purpose. What is God's? How can it have one?

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Message 7 of 75 (150005)
10-14-2004 9:19 PM


Jar I think I get what you’re trying to say... "My parents are here to take care of me" However this doesn't address the problem. They claim "without God we have no purpose" So how can God himself have purpose without a creator? Who assigned his purpose? This is the flaw in the logic

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Message 9 of 75 (150009)
10-14-2004 9:34 PM


yes it does according to many christians.... According to them all things need purpose. They see God as the two year old does although it isn't true
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Message 12 of 75 (150013)
10-14-2004 10:01 PM
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10-14-2004 9:57 PM


quote:
god's purpose for being is being
But what is wrong with that for us? Christians claim all things need purpose... Why doesn't God?

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Message 24 of 75 (150206)
10-15-2004 7:30 PM


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i don't understand. why does anything need purpose? meaning? let alone god who defines other purposes and meanings
Exactly I am asking the believers

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Message 26 of 75 (150211)
10-15-2004 7:53 PM
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10-14-2004 9:54 PM


quote:
You say that Christians say that GOD gives them purpose.
So far are we together?
yes I am with you

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Message 28 of 75 (150222)
10-15-2004 8:40 PM


I still do not get what you are trying to say..
quote:
Are we still in agreement?
yes
Edit: I keep forgeting this board has in reply to feature sorry
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Message 30 of 75 (150232)
10-15-2004 9:20 PM


are you trying to say this is the reason they have this belief?
I already knew that..
If not keep going... sorry

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Message 36 of 75 (150245)
10-15-2004 10:36 PM


What does this have to do with God's purpose? This only Explains why people seem to think they need a purpose...

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Message 39 of 75 (150248)
10-15-2004 11:07 PM
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10-15-2004 10:55 PM


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He being supreme majesty and in control of all, has the ability to purge out anything from his universe unsuitable to him and bless everything that is suitable to his liking. Thus he is the providential one to whom we should all worship, fear, love, obey and conform to with total allegience. He is not in the universe for us. We are placed in his universe by him for his purpose and pleasure. The sooner we all realize this the better off our personal lives, our communities, our nations and our world will be.
sounds alittle selfish and evil to me...
Buz you still didn't answer the question. If all things need assigned purpose.. What is God's and who assigned it?

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Message 42 of 75 (150255)
10-16-2004 12:15 AM
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10-15-2004 11:34 PM


Christians claim without a god we have no purpose.
So can I assume without a god of his own God has no purpose?

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Message 45 of 75 (150274)
10-16-2004 11:01 AM
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10-16-2004 10:48 AM


No...I don't need it...
However I will agree that christians think support is needed

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Message 48 of 75 (150291)
10-16-2004 12:40 PM
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10-16-2004 12:28 PM


So why do we need purpose if God doesn't?

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Message 50 of 75 (150438)
10-17-2004 1:47 AM
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10-16-2004 6:07 PM


"I worked for my money it is your turn"
What does this have to do with anything? This is hardly the same question.
Why do we need a purpose for being?
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