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mark24
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Message 406 of 510 (123746)
07-11-2004 1:04 PM
Reply to: Message 405 by nator
07-11-2004 11:24 AM


Schraf,
...Statistics are wrong all the the time
About what percentage of the time are they wrong, would you say?
lol, very, very good, even if you didn't intend it.
Mark

There are 10 kinds of people in this world; those that understand binary, & those that don't

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Ooook!
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Message 407 of 510 (123929)
07-12-2004 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 387 by Dr Jack
07-09-2004 9:53 AM


Sorry, should have inserted the tongue further into the cheek on that comment - it came out sounding more serious than I wanted to.
I know what you mean though - I resolutely promised myself that I would not respond ages ago, but rRat keeps on pressing that button hidden in my subconsious that reads "Aaarrrrrgggghhh!" and I can't help myself.
I suppose we should just sit back, twiddle our thumbs and wait for the fabled 'all the answers' post that rRat promised us ages ago

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Saviourmachine
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Message 408 of 510 (123995)
07-12-2004 3:25 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by riVeRraT
07-02-2004 7:52 AM


I want one good reason that having sex is ok
I want one good reason that having sex is ok. Yes, that's enough.

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riVeRraT
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Message 409 of 510 (124002)
07-12-2004 3:55 PM
Reply to: Message 408 by Saviourmachine
07-12-2004 3:25 PM


Re: I want one good reason that having sex is ok
Start your own thread, but you are getting close.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 410 of 510 (124003)
07-12-2004 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 409 by riVeRraT
07-12-2004 3:55 PM


Re: I want one good reason that having sex is ok
Are you getting close to telling us why homosexuality has anything to do with morality one way or the other? Because I've been waiting for an answer for about 28 pages now, and I'm awfully curious.
This message has been edited by Dan Carroll, 07-12-2004 02:58 PM

"Egos drone and pose alone, Like black balloons, all banged and blown
On a backwards river the infidels shiver in the stench of belief.
And tell my mama I'm a hundred years late; I'm over the rails and out of the race
The crippled psalms of an age that won't thaw are ringing in my ears"
-Beck

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riVeRraT
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Message 411 of 510 (124004)
07-12-2004 4:05 PM
Reply to: Message 391 by Rrhain
07-11-2004 5:16 AM


So we should condemn not only gay people but also people born sterile as well as those who choose to sterilize themselves (sterilization is the most common form of birth control) as well as those who are sterilized for other reasons (hysterectomy, orchiectomy) as well as women who have gone through menopause.
Because having gay sex is a choice, being sterile is not. Usually you wouldn't find out if your sterile until you try to reproduce.
What on earth does this have to do with anything? You act as if gay people don't also want to have children. What is the difference between an infertile straight couple and a gay couple when it comes to reproduction?
I need to explain the difference to you?
So straight couples who cannot re-produce seek medical help to correct the problem, do gay people?
Yes. They seek the services of sperm banks, surrogates, and adoption agencies.
Problem solved.
Except people like you then come in and complain that they're unfit to be parents for the simple reason that they're gay.
With good reason.
California, just declared a woman the father of a child who came from the other woman, and they had a "divorce"
We need stuff like this?
Or do we need a separation to clarify things. Because I am a father, and I am not a woman.
It is very difficult to walk down the street while engaging in oral sex.
You seem to have confused "holding hands" with sex.
Listen, I really don't need you to explain to me what I saw with my own eyes. Where do you come off trying to explain that to me?
You apparently are living in a closet. Just wait when this all becomes legal.
I grew up in NYC, I have seen a lot.
ou seem to have a different standard regarding heterosexual displays of sexual activity in public from homosexual ones. If a man grinds his crotch into the ass of his girlfriend while wrapping his arms around her and not-so-subtly caressing her breasts while standing in line for the movies, he's just being youthful and playful and maybe just a little too eager but nothing to be that upset over.
No, I don't agree with that either.

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riVeRraT
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Message 412 of 510 (124006)
07-12-2004 4:06 PM
Reply to: Message 392 by Rrhain
07-11-2004 5:17 AM


Re: Finally, I've been waiting for this to get approved.
Pay attention to the thread, I don't have to waste my time repeating myself, unless you admit that you are not observant, and your logic is flawed.

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riVeRraT
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Message 413 of 510 (124007)
07-12-2004 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 393 by Rrhain
07-11-2004 5:25 AM


Re: Finally, I've been waiting for this to get approved.
Then why are you trying to get me to leave? If you truly didn't care, then what provokes you to try and goad me into a silly bet where the penalty is my banishment from this forum?
Actually I don't want you to leave, I want you to be more logical.
You also call me names,
Liar.
Show me where I have called you a name.
Lmao.

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Coragyps
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Message 414 of 510 (124010)
07-12-2004 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 411 by riVeRraT
07-12-2004 4:05 PM


I need to explain the difference to you?
I guess you do. You haven't addressed it in 400+ posts now.

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riVeRraT
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Message 415 of 510 (124013)
07-12-2004 4:18 PM
Reply to: Message 394 by Rrhain
07-11-2004 6:52 AM


You see, this is what you do.
I would like to make a freindly suggestion to you, so that we could have better discussions. Please take my words at face value. Do not add stuff to them like you just did.
Just because you equate "going against God's word" with "paying for your sins in hell" doesn't mean that I do. I have stated very clearly in other threads, that #1 I am not capable of making that judgement, #2 God will decide where you will go and not go. He will judge you based on the life you had. So it is up to him, not me.
I don't like to judge people, but lets pretend I was God for a second. If you were raised in an enviroment that caused you to think that stealing was ok, and never had a chance to learn the truth, I might say, you did the best you could with what you had.
But thats just a feeling, I could be completely wrong. Everything in life is for God's glroy, so he can choose to do with you what he wants. Even all the comments you do in here, might be your ticket into heaven, what do I know.
As far as animals going to heaven, I just don't know if they go to heaven or hell, thats what I meant by that.
Tell us what your standard of acceptance is so that we can try to meet it.
What would it take for you to say that gay sex is OK?
Even if God came down and said it, I would still not think it was ok. I guess I would be wrong in God's eyes then, but hey, I'm only human and I am allowed to be wrong.
What would it take for me to think it was ok, I don't know, thats why I am asking. I don't want to hurt other peoples feelings, I want to find out if I am doing something wrong or inhumane by feeling this way. I am looking to better myself.

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riVeRraT
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Message 416 of 510 (124016)
07-12-2004 4:24 PM
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07-12-2004 4:10 PM


Yes I have, gay men cannot reproduce.
Gay woman cannot reproduce without outside help.
Heres a good question, Do animals that are gay have children?
If they don't couldn't we then say that gay couples having children is unatural?
I am not claiming this, only asking your opinion.

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riVeRraT
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Message 417 of 510 (124017)
07-12-2004 4:25 PM
Reply to: Message 395 by Rrhain
07-11-2004 6:53 AM


Smoking pot, raping, and gay sex, all affect other people, differently.
What part of differently didn't you understand?

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riVeRraT
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Message 418 of 510 (124018)
07-12-2004 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 396 by Rrhain
07-11-2004 7:02 AM


So if you're going to whine about gay sex, why aren't you whining about straight sex?
Because thats another topic.

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riVeRraT
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Message 419 of 510 (124020)
07-12-2004 4:28 PM
Reply to: Message 397 by Rrhain
07-11-2004 7:04 AM


Wow, you mean you got what I said?
Wait *sigh* you didn't
kissing=sex, need more?
I am against it, need more?
Read all the posts, not just half of them. If thats how you conduct your logic, then it is definatly flawed.

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Dan Carroll
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Message 420 of 510 (124022)
07-12-2004 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 419 by riVeRraT
07-12-2004 4:28 PM


kissing=sex
Nice. I've gotten laid way more times than I thought!
Read all the posts, not just half of them.
Planning on addressing post 410, amongst others? Wouldn't want to only read half the posts, after all.

"Egos drone and pose alone, Like black balloons, all banged and blown
On a backwards river the infidels shiver in the stench of belief.
And tell my mama I'm a hundred years late; I'm over the rails and out of the race
The crippled psalms of an age that won't thaw are ringing in my ears"
-Beck

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