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Author Topic:   I want one good reason that being gay is ok
Loudmouth
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Message 4 of 510 (121208)
07-02-2004 1:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by riVeRraT
07-02-2004 7:52 AM


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#2 Animal kingdom, animals in the wild are gay, so its ok for us to be gay. Not a good reason either, as animals also rape, steal and kill, thats ok for them, but not for us. So we cannot compare our lifestyle to the animal kingdom.
But we can't deny that homosexuality is a natural occurence, and we can't claim that homosexuality is unnatural.
One good reason that being gay is ok: It makes people happier. Whether or not homosexuality is a predisposition, I don't know. However, never in my life did I choose to be heterosexual, and it has never been shown that heterosexuality is the default mode. We are who we are, and we know what makes us happy. Why should someone else's religious feelings get in the way of someone else's happiness? Especially in a country where personal freedom is so well guarded. Would you rather people be lonely and miserable so that you feel better with your set of morals? I sure wouldn't.

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Loudmouth
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Message 214 of 510 (122415)
07-06-2004 3:27 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by riVeRraT
07-02-2004 11:46 PM


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It makes me happy to smoke pot and rape women, does that make it ok?
I have no problem with you smoking pot. It doesn't hurt anyone else, and more and more studies are showing that it doesn't hurt the user either.
However, rape infringes on other people's rights. Being gay does not infringe on anybody's rights. Therefore, the two are not comparable. It is like saying I like chocolate and I like shooting people. Does that mean liking chocolate is wrong since liking murder is also wrong?

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Loudmouth
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Message 294 of 510 (122706)
07-07-2004 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 248 by riVeRraT
07-07-2004 8:45 AM


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Smoking pot, raping, and gay sex, all affect other people, differently.
People are trying to say it doesn't but it does. It has affected me, isn't that clear.
If you being heterosexual affected me in someway, then would you be legally obligated to become homosexual? Why should you expect the opposite scenario to be binding to our society, but you don't seem to care that heterosexuality might actually affect some people? Other than causing your nose to point towards the sky, how does gay sex afect you?
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Smoking pot has affected me also, and my family, and my friends. I don't care what a study says.
I was actually pointing more towards long term physical effects. Studies were unable to find people that were "perma-stoned" after they quit smoking pot for extended periods of time (ie years). However, just like any drug, abuse can lead to family problems as well as problems with your career. Moderation in all things, don't you think? If you claim it was causing problems in your life, I believe you.

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Loudmouth
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Message 337 of 510 (122989)
07-08-2004 12:17 PM
Reply to: Message 328 by riVeRraT
07-08-2004 11:04 AM


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If one is moral, and the other isn't moral.
Within a government that does not have an established religion, any moral code that is derived solely from a religious text is not binding to the society that is being governed. Unless you move out of America and into a country that is ruled by a theocracy, tough luck. Taking advantage of America's areligious stance allows you free practice of religion, and also allows the free non-practice of religion. In this light, homosexuality is your religious opinion and is not binding to anyone else in society within a legal context.

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