I want one good reason that being gay is ok

It wrong for some, so that fact does not make it ok for all.
This is not a clear cut reason to accept that being gay is ok.God is aginst it, its not prejudice. There are many things that we like to do that are aginst God. It only keeps you away from God, and has nothing to do with it being ok or not really. For your own good in that sense it might not be ok for you in the after life, but that is to all be judged by God. What do I know, gays may in fact go to heaven. I'll leave that up to God.You can choose any of the three sexual choices. You may not like it, but you can make that choice.
If you were starving in the desert and didn't like chocolate cake, you bet you would eat it at that moment.
Men go to prison and come out having gay experiences due to lack of sex.
Priests who swear to God celibacy wind up molesting young children. Do you think that there wasn't a choice involved?

You missed the boat on that one, go back and read. Screwd up is a broad term, but I am not talking about minor stuff, like my daddy doesn't let me listen to rock and roll kind of thing.
I also know of many children who are fine with their parents, and they are usually Christians.More on this later. After all what has been said in this forum to me about gay's. It is ok for me to ask this question.

(*sigh*)No, buzsaw, it is your responsibility to provide proof. You're the one making the claim. Therefore it is your burden.Contrary to your first claim, straight males are much more likely to molest male children than straights.You seem to be confused that if the adult and the child share the same sex, that means the adult is "gay." This simply isn't true. Children tend to be viewed as feminine in the eyes of pedophiles. Boys do not have the secondary sexual characteristics that distinguish adult males such as body hair, lowered voice, or developed genitalia. They look a lot like little girls.I fail to see how "equal treatment under the law" is "special treatment."Those who have no neurosis over sexuality do not find gay people "repulsive." After all, having an unjustified fear reaction to something that is not a threat is a phobia.Since gay people are physically capable of having sex, it is true by mere observation that the organs of the body were made for same-sex relationships. If they weren't, gay people wouldn't be able to have sex.There is nothing inherently dangerous about same-sex sex. How does a woman engaging in cunnilingus cause any more damage than a male engaging in it? In fact, lesbian sex is the least risky form of intercourse around. It is the least likely to transmit disease.There has never been a disruption of a nation due to gay people. On the contrary, the subjugation of gay people has led to animosity, unrest, and social problems.There have been many societies in which same-sex sexual activity was not only accepted but actively encouraged. Arguably the greatest military society the world has ever seen required homosexuality among its men: Sparta.Rome was quite tolerant of homosexuality and it lasted for centuries. Contrary to popular opinion, Rome fell not because of homosexuality but because it grew too large to sustain itself. Please read Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire by Gibbon...still considered the definitive text on the history of Rome. You won't find homosexuality mentioned as a cause for the decline of Rome.The state of the nation has become much better since gay people started coming out of the closet.And I doubt you have ever had a gay friend. Oh, you may have known gay people and even hung out with them on a regular basis, but "friends" don't blame "friends" for the downfall of society.Now, why are you so upset about this, buzsaw? It affects you in absolutely no way, so why are you so adamant about proving to the world that you don't like gay people?You know what they say about those who need to make a point of their disgust....

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The numerous apologists here for gay lifestyle are the odd people out so far as the historical world population has gone. You are the odd minority of humans of all times who think two males or two females can mate up naturally and expect their peers to think it's fine and dandy. We who you think are intollerant and narrow are the normal ones, so far as human history goes. Your generation is near the "end times" of the wrath of Gods and it is you people who are getting God's wrath up in your attitude towards him, decency and what is natural. This subject is just one in which you all are on the looser end and taking your world down to destruction, suffering and judgement. It is you who poopoo the fulfilled Biblical prophecies and who fail to observe and heed the fair warnings your creator has supplied in his mercy before lowering the boom. Wise up folks, is my advice, and live.

Don't do that, I will not accept that crap. I stated how I feel, I am not a liar. I Love people who choose to have same-sex relations just the same as everyone else.If my mother was an alcoholic, would I Love her any less because she was doing something wrong?So don't go there and lump me into a group again.Most gay couples I know do not have children, but some do.
I do not see their relationships as being good, or healthy at all.
You even admit it yourself to a degree. I also don't believe in statistics, because they lie just like the media. If there was a bunch of gay people running the statistics bureau, then it would be possible that stats could be tainted. This happens in all facets of statistics. I would even venture to say that statistics are wrong a good percentage of the time all on their own.

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On the contrary, fundamentalist Christians are generally honest, hard working, responsible good citizens who get along in society above the average.

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Incorrect. Actually, it's the other way around. Atheists are more honest, hard-working, responsible citizens who get along with society above the average. The fundamentalists actually tend to have more conflict with society...and no wonder, since they have such an extremist view of the world and so little toleration for the other members of the society.F'rinstance, fundamentalists are more likely to get divorced than any other religious group. Atheists are the least likely.

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This's nuts and you know it. If you can't say something sensible, why not just pass or admit it's a scientific and obvious fact.

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But it is a scientific and obvious fact that the human organs are fit for same-sex sexual activity. Gay people have absolutely no trouble engaging in sexual activity. Since gay people can and do have sex, it necessarily is the case that the human body is made for gay sex.Can you think of anything that gay people can do that straight people can't? So since straight people do the exact same thing, how can it be "unnatural" when gay people do it? A woman's mouth on a clitoris is somehow different from a man's mouth on the same clitoris?

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So why, for 200 years have they been fewer and the few were secret?

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(*chuckle*)They weren't secret. You simply refused to see them.

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Rrhain
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Do you have testimony from these clergymen or are you basing this on your false statement that gays molest more children? Maybe I'm just dense but I don't see how the fact that the government has been discriminating against gays for 200 years in any way means it should continue to do so. Children already grow up with same sex parents, they just aren't married. I don't think you can back this up with any hard data. Christians are represented in the prison population in the same proportion as they are represented in the general population. As a side note: I wouldn't hire someone from Bob Jones University. Not so nuts as you might think. Since it happens in nature it is clearly natural. You can't procreate with same gender sex but there is nothing unnatural about it. If it were unnatural you couldn't do it. I do agree with that. And I would also agree that neither is wrong. Just because you don't want to believe that it was normal for them doesn't mean it wasn't.All of these points aside it still doesn't change the fact that you have no more right to tell me what soap to use in the bathroom than who consents to share my bed. If you are worried about what your god might think just keep in mind that when you stand before him at your death he will _NOT_ ask you "What was Bob doing?"

BuzWhen Jesus returns he will welcome many an Atheist and Homeosexual before he even acknowledges the existance of most Christians.I will gladly stand before the throne and say that I supported Homosexual Marriage. Then I'll offer to buy him a beer and a slab of ribs. Lobster on the side. Wise up folks, is my advice, and live.

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Why should I have to accept it?
I mean I do, but why should I?

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Because to obsess about something that is of no consequence is not healthy.To hold animosity in your heart, even the tiniest bit, against someone who has done you no harm is not healthy.To constantly be on edge, to worry about the consequences of something that has no effect upon you, leads to mental illness.Yes, I am being serious. The people who think the government is out to get them? That the road signs are marked with secret icons for when the black helicopters from the UN finally invade? They all started somewhere.Paranoia isn't pretty.Why are you so worried about something that doesn't concern you? Since the cause of the social friction is actually your bristling reaction rather than their action, don't you think life would go a lot better for all concerned if you just go over it and started accepting it?

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Reading down to see if anyone had given this argument.Well said, and ultimately to the point on any matter of discrimination and bias (even when presented in a passive aggressive style like the original topic was).This is, after all, the reason why the supreme court threw out the discriminatory law in texas.thanks.

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actually, i find a strong correlation between fundamental christian parents and screwed up kids. i know quite a few that have done a number on their children, personally.i know that your argument is complete bs, from personal experience.

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Men go to prison and come out having gay experiences due to lack of sex.

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That doesn't make them gay.How interesting that in trying to come up with an analogy for your opinion regarding gay people, you chose prison rape.Is there no idiotic comparison you won't use? Murderers, thieves, pedophiles, and now rapists. You claim not to have anything against gay people, and yet everything you say shows a deep underlying negativity.

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Priests who swear to God celibacy wind up molesting young children.

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They're not gay, either.Again, the choice of pedophilia as an appropriate analogy to gay people.Is there some reason why you cannot come up with a loving, mutually respectful relationship to compare gay people to?

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Rrhain
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replace the word gay in your list with the word christian and it has equal validity.one could then conclude that christians are more likely to be gay ... with the logic that was applied to develop this list.enjoy.

is that something that can be naturally selected for?

Not if it is just as wrong as robbing an old lady I won't get out of your way. I won't stop you from what your doing or hate you, but I have to stand up for what I believe is righteous.You haven't answered the question either, give me a reason I should accept it as being ok. I guess it is a wrong approach to the arguement. I haven't really learned about any gay animals that mate for life. I have only seen dolphins on the discovery channel having what appears to be "same-sex".
This what the annoucer claimed. I saw it more as a bunch of guys trying to get horny to screw some chicks. Almost the same thing as if a hot girl walks into a bar and all the guys start drooling over her, and talking about what they would like to do to her. Its all barbaric, and not a good thing to compare us too. So we agree on that one then? Yes you are. lol.Everything that goes on in this country of ours has to do with each other. If I was making bombs in my basement, you wouldn't like it would you, even if I never planned to use them. I in now way approve of this. I have in fact gone out a had fights with gay bashers for bashing my gay friends.
This is still not a good reason to be gay.It seems to me that when you hate something or someone for what they do, you seem to go the other way. You do it with God too. It has everything to do with me, and our country. I make no exuses for the way I feel. Thats part of my point, that is why I am asking you for a clear cut reason, which you haven't given me.