I want one good reason that being gay is ok

Now before any of you think that I am gay bashing, I will tell you that I do not hate gay people, or dislike them for being gay. I have many gay friends and relatives. I accept them the way they are.I just do not agree with the act of being gay. Its the act I do not think is ok not the person doing it.I will start off with some examples that we have already gone over and why you can't use them.#1 People have tried to claim that is not against God. I believe we have clearly shown that it is against God's will for a person to have gay sex.#2 Animal kingdom, animals in the wild are gay, so its ok for us to be gay. Not a good reason either, as animals also rape, steal and kill, thats ok for them, but not for us. So we cannot compare our lifestyle to the animal kingdom.#3 "I was born this way." I refuse to believe this one also. Its a choice to be gay period, just like its a choice to be a thief.#4 Gay people have better relationships than straight and can make better parents. I absolutly refuse to believe this one, as I have never seen a completely happy gay couple, or a child from gay parents who wasn't screwd up by it. Gay couples and parents experience all the same problems that straight couples do and more.Please please, do not bash me for thinking this way. I do not bash anyone for being gay. Maybe with intelligent conversation, you can give me one good reason that being gay is ok.
Before you go claiming that I feel this way because I believe in God, then let me tell you that I felt this way before I believed in God, and my upbringing was in NYC by a liberal mother, who taught me to accept being gay is ok. I never felt is was ok, even though this is what she tried to teach me. I was surrounded by gay people my whole life. My best friend had lesbian parents (boy was he screwed up by that. Those are his own words).Love to all.This message has been edited by riVeRraT, 07-02-2004 06:54 AM

Almost as dumb as worrying if being gay is ok in God's eyes?Why should I have to accept it?
I mean I do, but why should I?

Yes and kings who worshipped false gods were appointed by God, if you believe in him or not.Nice try.psalms 826 "I said, 'You are "gods";
you are all sons of the Most High.'
7 But you will die like mere men;
you will fall like every other ruler."Note god with a small "g" is different than God with a big "g"

Wow, lol it didn't take long for this one to get moved.

It makes me happy to smoke pot and rape women, does that make it ok?Nope, I want a reason. A clear cut reason that being gay is ok, without comparing it to anything else.

I was born liking pot, does that make it ok, nope.I will explain why this happens later in the thread.

It wrong for some, so that fact does not make it ok for all.
This is not a clear cut reason to accept that being gay is ok.God is aginst it, its not prejudice. There are many things that we like to do that are aginst God. It only keeps you away from God, and has nothing to do with it being ok or not really. For your own good in that sense it might not be ok for you in the after life, but that is to all be judged by God. What do I know, gays may in fact go to heaven. I'll leave that up to God.You can choose any of the three sexual choices. You may not like it, but you can make that choice.
If you were starving in the desert and didn't like chocolate cake, you bet you would eat it at that moment.
Men go to prison and come out having gay experiences due to lack of sex.
Priests who swear to God celibacy wind up molesting young children. Do you think that there wasn't a choice involved?

You missed the boat on that one, go back and read. Screwd up is a broad term, but I am not talking about minor stuff, like my daddy doesn't let me listen to rock and roll kind of thing.
I also know of many children who are fine with their parents, and they are usually Christians.More on this later. After all what has been said in this forum to me about gay's. It is ok for me to ask this question.

Don't do that, I will not accept that crap. I stated how I feel, I am not a liar. I Love people who choose to have same-sex relations just the same as everyone else.If my mother was an alcoholic, would I Love her any less because she was doing something wrong?So don't go there and lump me into a group again.Most gay couples I know do not have children, but some do.
I do not see their relationships as being good, or healthy at all.
You even admit it yourself to a degree. I also don't believe in statistics, because they lie just like the media. If there was a bunch of gay people running the statistics bureau, then it would be possible that stats could be tainted. This happens in all facets of statistics. I would even venture to say that statistics are wrong a good percentage of the time all on their own.

Not if it is just as wrong as robbing an old lady I won't get out of your way. I won't stop you from what your doing or hate you, but I have to stand up for what I believe is righteous.You haven't answered the question either, give me a reason I should accept it as being ok. I guess it is a wrong approach to the arguement. I haven't really learned about any gay animals that mate for life. I have only seen dolphins on the discovery channel having what appears to be "same-sex".
This what the annoucer claimed. I saw it more as a bunch of guys trying to get horny to screw some chicks. Almost the same thing as if a hot girl walks into a bar and all the guys start drooling over her, and talking about what they would like to do to her. Its all barbaric, and not a good thing to compare us too. So we agree on that one then? Yes you are. lol.Everything that goes on in this country of ours has to do with each other. If I was making bombs in my basement, you wouldn't like it would you, even if I never planned to use them. I in now way approve of this. I have in fact gone out a had fights with gay bashers for bashing my gay friends.
This is still not a good reason to be gay.It seems to me that when you hate something or someone for what they do, you seem to go the other way. You do it with God too. It has everything to do with me, and our country. I make no exuses for the way I feel. Thats part of my point, that is why I am asking you for a clear cut reason, which you haven't given me.

Then why is it illegal to commit suicide?Still not a good enough reason.

I agree with that. Hey! start your own thread.

Yes it is, and it makes my point that what doesn't hurt anyone else its ok theory is invalid.I want a clear cut answer, without comparing it to something else.

It doesn't hurt my mother or father if I commit suicide does it?If I smoke pot, it doesn't hurt anyone else, provided I grow it myself and not buy it through a drug ring, where people can die for drugs.

You are worng about that. Go and ask a rabbi. It is well documented what is meant by that verse.
It is different.Your not saying that God, said we are God's are you?