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Jackal25
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Message 1 of 162 (94196)
03-23-2004 5:50 PM


I am new first off so be nice.
If people believe in evolution then they must believe in how the first living creature was put on earth. What facts are there of how the first creature showed up on earth. I mean all I read on this forum is "where is the fact, where is the fact", so I am going to do it too. I personally believe God created everything and I am interested in how you believe that it all started.Im sure that this has been brought up, but it isnt the easiest thing to find where it is posted. If you know just let me know you dont have to respond.

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Jackal25
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Message 3 of 162 (94207)
03-23-2004 6:07 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Chiroptera
03-23-2004 5:57 PM


So you believe in God and evolution?

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Jackal25
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Message 8 of 162 (94224)
03-23-2004 6:32 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Darwin Storm
03-23-2004 6:20 PM


Thanks for your reply Darwin, I am just trying to learn as much as I can as I dont know much. I was just trying to understand how atheist believe that it all started. I guess since I have always just known in my heart that God was the creator its hard for me to comprehind that an atheist could believe something else. I mean I have no right to say they are wrong because like this forum brings up a lot, some people need cold hard facts to believe something or they wont, and who am I to say I have these facts. I just apreciate any help I can get in trying to understand where everyone is coming from.

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Jackal25
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Message 12 of 162 (94301)
03-24-2004 12:23 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by Darwin Storm
03-23-2004 9:39 PM


Darwin I hope you dont think we are having an argument here at all. I was just wanting to find out how the atheist thinks since I have never personally talked to an atheist which I want to very much so, and to be pesonal when I sayed that I have always beleived God created all that is not entirely true. I have always gone to church just because my mother made me and just recently actually have taken the time to understand it. Recently meaning 3 to 4 months. I now totally beleive everything that I have read since then, but before I can totally believe I am a person that likes to know all sides of any story, or in this case completely different sides. So I am sorry if you took my comments that way.

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Jackal25
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Message 15 of 162 (94306)
03-24-2004 12:40 AM
Reply to: Message 14 by NosyNed
03-24-2004 12:36 AM


Re: Differences
Ned once again I have to say I never said I know anything, I am trying to learn if you would read what I said. I never said I know how someone thinks from there label, just trying to learn.

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Jackal25
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Message 17 of 162 (94317)
03-24-2004 1:13 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by NosyNed
03-24-2004 1:00 AM


Re: Differences
I have a question for you Ned if you dont mind and rememeber I am just trying to find some stuff out. You dont need to explain your answer with 2 pages of response just what you think. What is your opinion on what will happen to you when you die? I have never heard from an atheist what they think will happen. Now I know that what you think is not what every atheist thinks but just your opinion is ok. If you dont feel comfortable answering it that is fine too, I just like to ask questions.

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Jackal25
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Message 19 of 162 (94321)
03-24-2004 1:27 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Darwin Storm
03-24-2004 1:21 AM


Re: Differences
Thanks for your response, and your right thats not very comforting. Its just hard for me to think that when we die its just over, and I dont mind at all on a different athiests opinion. If you around tomorow Darwin I may think of some other questions to ask, I have a test thur so I need to go study. I appreciate you taking the time to help with my questions.

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Jackal25
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Message 20 of 162 (94323)
03-24-2004 1:29 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Darwin Storm
03-24-2004 1:21 AM


Re: Differences
And by the way you can call me Adam, kind of weird getting called Jackal.

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Jackal25
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Message 23 of 162 (94471)
03-24-2004 2:50 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Darwin Storm
03-24-2004 1:51 AM


Re: Differences
Hey Darwin, hope your test went well. I have been thinking a lot just about how an atheist may see things different because for some if they dont have evidence or fact to prove something then they have problems believing it happend. Now I am not saying every person may think like this but Im sure some need those facts to reassure them that it really happend. So with that said have you ever struggled that maybe God does really exist and you could be completely wrong? For me when I hear the storys of the bible in my heart I just know they are the truth, something in me just reassures me that they are true and that is all that matters. I dont know if you read the bible or not but I think i remember you saying that your wife is a Christian so I am sure you have. This is just a question so dont take it more than that, but if you have read the bible before do you just think that it is a big lie? And sorry for my grammer I am an engineering major, we dont rely on are grammer skills.

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Jackal25
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Message 26 of 162 (94514)
03-24-2004 4:34 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Trixie
03-24-2004 4:16 PM


Re: Differences
Hey trix, sorry if you dont like being called that i thought it sounded cool. Thanks for your response, I really am just trying to get as many points of view as a can as I am still young and trying to find answers. I know i will never find all of them but I can still try. Like you saying that you are a practicing christian but dont believe in the Genesis part. Are there any other parts you dont believe to be true or maybe you think dont match with evidence found otherwise? Since you do believe in Jesus and the Ressurection and God you must believe some parts of the bible. Just out of curiosity what type of scientist, I was thinking of becoming one and decided engineering instead(hope i made the right choice).

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