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Message 4 of 162 (94210)
03-23-2004 6:08 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Chiroptera
03-23-2004 5:57 PM


Concise Batman Do you happen to know if there is any supporting fossil evidence for this organism?

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Message 75 of 162 (168492)
12-15-2004 11:25 AM
Reply to: Message 64 by d_yankee
11-24-2004 10:45 PM


Re: Huh?
d_yankee writes:
How do you figure that the Bible conflicts with scientific principles.
1. Virgin birth (23 chromosomes does not a human make.) The female egg will not form a zygote, let alone a blastula without a human male sperm. Please show evidence of how the bible can reconcile this with science.
2. Jesus walked on water : (The fact that Jesus was 30 years old give or take and was a fully formed male. The surface tension of the water would not support his weight. Please reconcile how a human male that weighs around 130 to 140 pounds can perform this. Please show your calculations.
3. Geocentrism (the concept of the Earth being the center of the universe) Please show evidence that will support this claim. Please reference any currentley observed phenomenon that would support such a claim and disprove modern cosmic models.
I am sure other EvC members could come up with a lot more "conflicts" with science. But you should be able to defend 3 points.

"One is punished most for ones virtues" Fredrick Neitzche

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Message 122 of 162 (170525)
12-21-2004 4:26 PM
Reply to: Message 121 by crashfrog
12-21-2004 3:27 PM


no formal definition, just properties of life
1. Order
2. Reproduction
3.Growth
4. Energy utilization and metabolism
5.Response to environment
6.Homeostasis
7.Evolutionary adaptation
8.Movement

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Message 124 of 162 (170539)
12-21-2004 4:37 PM
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12-21-2004 4:32 PM


Look it up in your freshman biology book. (just kidding) You answered your own question. "a property" not all organisms share all properties. But as in medicine there are exceptions to every rule.

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Message 126 of 162 (170741)
12-22-2004 12:28 PM
Reply to: Message 125 by crashfrog
12-22-2004 12:37 AM


Name a sessil organism that does not move. edit to add:In fact name me an organism that does not have the properties I listed.
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Message 128 of 162 (170889)
12-22-2004 3:58 PM
Reply to: Message 127 by crashfrog
12-22-2004 3:15 PM


Sessile means staying put not that they dont move.
Trees are sessile, yet they move they're branches to collect more light.
Sponges are sessile, yet the move they're polyps to filter sea water.
Corals as well move they're polyps.
Sessile means they have established a nitch that does not require them to roam about, but it does not mean the organism does not have moving parts or that it does not move in it's own place of dwelling.
So technically Sessile organism do move, just not from the place they reside. Of course I am being nit picky but you were the one that challenged the properties of life I listed. Merry Christmas Crash, I know your atheist but I have a feeling you celebrate anyways

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Message 130 of 162 (170905)
12-22-2004 4:21 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by crashfrog
12-22-2004 4:09 PM


Lichens my ass
Lichens are sybiotic with fungi that posses hyphe which do move.
Plants "move" in response to light. Even trees do just very slowly. But time lapse photography will show you the Movement.
Movement is movement. I contend that movement is a valid property of life . And you can have the last word..ok thats my christmas present to you. ha ha ha.

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