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hitchy
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Message 15 of 101 (90035)
03-03-2004 11:31 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Phat
03-03-2004 2:30 AM


Trinity and Mithrianism
The concept of three persons in one god is a steal from the ancient Mithrians during christianities rise to acceptance in Rome. Christianity was notorious for assimilating pagan ideas and festivals back in those days in order to gain converts from the pagan masses. Easter and Christmas come to mind. Thanks in advance for the prayer. But I would rather hear rebuttal than "god, please open hitchy's eyes and bring him closer to your everlasting love"...

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hitchy
Member (Idle past 5149 days)
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From: Southern Maryland via Pittsburgh
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Message 45 of 101 (90473)
03-05-2004 8:19 AM
Reply to: Message 44 by crashfrog
03-04-2004 11:03 PM


The idea of a personal god...
...fulfills the need for "guidence" that some people think they need in their lives. Others believe in god b/c they were brought up to believe and if they want to remain part of the family or community, they continue to believe or become ostracized. Some believe b/c it is comforting. Some believe b/c it gives them a sense of purpose or power. Others believe b/c it justifies their morality.
I don't believe b/c the "guidence" provided by god is just you finally making up your mind for whatever reason. I also don't believe b/c I think it is a cop-out to say "it is in god's hands now" or "it is god's will". WTF!?! Some things happen b/c of random chance. Other things happen b/c humans influence events around themselves for whatever reason. Anyway, whatever happens can be explained without resorting to "god did it". Sometimes the explanation is not always immediately apparent, but given time, can be found.
Sometimes you just have to say "F--- it" and be yourself no matter what others think. I am not saying to be offensive or anything, but if you are ostracized for being who you are, you probably shouldn't have been there in the first place. You cannot control how others act. You can only control how you react to them. If they have a problem, that's what it is--their problem. I started a story on another thread about a born-again (?) christian I almost married right out of college. Her mother hated me b/c I could not stand by while she spouted out stupid shit all the time. I tried to be respectful, but when you finally obtain a degree in biology and then are told that snakes lost their legs just like it says in the bible or that all Catholics are going to hell (I was raised Catholic and she knew that) or that I needed spiritual guidence b/c I didn't think the way they did, etc. you just lose it. However, for as much abuse I took about not being a BAC, I at least did not comment on how much my girl liked premarital sex (that is still a no-no, right?) or how much money the mother wasted on make-up or on how much slanderous gossip she spread right after we would get out of church or her "throwing stones" at all of us "heathens".
I think that we should spend time trying to improve this world, not preparing ourselves for an afterlife that might or might not exist. Remember, good works don't get you to heaven, so why bother with them? God gets to pick and choose for whatever reason--that sounds fair, right!?!
One more thing, don't tell me I don't believe in god b/c god is making me not believe in him/her/it b/c I have rejected him/her/it. What kind of BS is that?
{added by edit--This is not directed at crashfrog (in case anyone could not tell.)}
[This message has been edited by hitchy, 03-05-2004]

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hitchy
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Message 60 of 101 (91536)
03-10-2004 9:56 AM
Reply to: Message 57 by Cold Foreign Object
03-09-2004 10:48 PM


Concept of an anthropomorphic god?
Bottom line...people wrote the bible just like people wrote other religious texts. It makes sense that people would anthropomophize their supreme being. The supreme being can do everything the "mere mortals" cannot. The writers and followers projected their ideas of a perfected self into their creator. They also created a god that would reward and punish certain human behaviors. The concept of god also was used to unite cultures and "compete" with the deities of rival cultures. I fail to see the difference btwn a christian god and our comic manifestations of superheroes.

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