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Author Topic:   God: Knowable or not Knowable?
Hyroglyphx
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Message 31 of 216 (436488)
11-26-2007 1:15 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Dr Adequate
11-22-2007 8:14 AM


Simplistic brilliance
Now apply the same reasoning to whether a relationship is possible between a human and a cat.
Heh...... Simplistic brilliance.

“This life’s dim windows of the soul, distorts the heavens from pole to pole, and goads you to believe a lie, when you see with and not through the eye.” -William Blake

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 32 of 216 (436489)
11-26-2007 1:16 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Modulous
11-22-2007 11:03 AM


Re: Short and sweet
It is possible to know God, but it is impossible to know if you know God.
Intriguing. I'm curious to know how you've deduced this. Can you expand on this a bit?

“This life’s dim windows of the soul, distorts the heavens from pole to pole, and goads you to believe a lie, when you see with and not through the eye.” -William Blake

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 37 of 216 (436625)
11-26-2007 8:41 PM
Reply to: Message 33 by Modulous
11-26-2007 2:06 AM


Re: Short and sweet
Did you see Message 8?
I have now. Thanks!
I'll have to say, msg 8 was equally as intriguing as well as insightful. Can you expound on that argument a bit. I only ask because I've never thought of it that way. Seeing such a fresh outlook is really quite interesting. I thought it so profound that I may even find myself adopting a rival viewpoint. Very witty. Good job.
I think you might have to change professions.
Hmmmmm.... Modulous.....? Your name even has a philosophical ring to it!

“This life’s dim windows of the soul, distorts the heavens from pole to pole, and goads you to believe a lie, when you see with and not through the eye.” -William Blake

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 45 of 216 (436890)
11-27-2007 10:43 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by Modulous
11-27-2007 12:05 PM


Re: less short, hopefully sweetness density not affected
Sorry for the small epic there. You can see why I opted for the short and sweet version. I don't lay claim to the argument being bullet proof either - it is not a line of thought that I've discussed a lot so I haven't found a good coherent way of expressing it. Please feel free to point out where you think I've slipped up
Well, like Joe here, I think its one of those paradoxes where you are never entirely certain, with verifiable, empirical, repeatable, bona fide "knowledge." So I don't see where a slip up could have been, or if there was, neither side of the debate would be able to prove it one way or the other I suppose.
And I've gotta say that I'm a little perturbed, and slightly covetous, that I didn't think of something this witty.
I'm not even really sure why I thought it was so great... Maybe it just hits close to home with me. But it was definately for me an "Aha!" moment...
Great job... POTM all the way... I'm really hoping Phat will read this since he's always discussing aspects of faith juxtaposed by tangible evidence. I think it would unfurl his own belief better.
I also have to marvel that a non-theist was even able to come to that understanding, because so many of them really are like the pysciatrist in the story.
I used to be the psychiatrist. But now I'm Joe. And sometimes its frustrating to know something and not be able to explain the most wonderful experience of Joe's life. Its frustrating, but at the same time, its what keeps Joe going on with passionate conviction.
The memory of Everest has a purpose for Joe. And Joe is more than willing to crawl through the creeks and crags, through the muck and the mire, just to be in the presence of the memory of Everest... And I guess its because once you see the memory of Everest, everything else is just details.
The grandeur, the bueaty, the ineffable love, the enigma, the inanimate spirit that binds all things together.
I just... I just love the memory of Everest, and it loves me.

“This life’s dim windows of the soul, distorts the heavens from pole to pole, and goads you to believe a lie, when you see with and not through the eye.” -William Blake

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 53 of 216 (436998)
11-28-2007 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by Modulous
11-28-2007 10:59 AM


Re: less short, hopefully sweetness density not affected
I'm happy to leave it at what 'meeting of the minds' we were able to achieve and not focus on any differences right now.
Yeah, I wouldn't want to spoil the moment by bringing up trite indifferences. Great post, Mod.

“This life’s dim windows of the soul, distorts the heavens from pole to pole, and goads you to believe a lie, when you see with and not through the eye.” -William Blake

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