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Topic: Is man inherently good or inherently evil?
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CK
Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 4 of 271 (141804)
09-12-2004 4:02 PM
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Reply to: Message 3 by Mr. Bound 09-12-2004 3:31 PM
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Good and evil are social constructs. Something that is now "Good" will be "evil" in the future (as has already occured) and vis-versa.
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CK
Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Then again, if people were good I wouldn't starve. But what about natural problems beyond the control of man? I'm not sure there is such a connection (however us all being "good" would go a long way to solve this).
I stole a bible once. I was hungry. In a similar move, I wiped my arse on one once when I was out of toilet paper (and a chuck Austen Comic book for those in the know).
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CK
Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 33 of 271 (142385)
09-14-2004 4:40 PM
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Reply to: Message 32 by Phat 09-14-2004 4:29 PM
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Re: Is there a distinction between Humans and Animals?
quote: Lets use the Rolls Royce or Lamborghini analogy. Both of these fine automobiles are constructed in a far superior method from the average car
I have a bust-up old 4x4 and want to pull a trailer up a hill in a muddy field - which is best? Mine or the rolls Royce. How does one measure superior construct in such a situation? This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 09-15-2004 04:23 AM
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CK
Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 34 of 271 (142386)
09-14-2004 4:40 PM
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Reply to: Message 32 by Phat 09-14-2004 4:29 PM
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Re: Is there a distinction between Humans and Animals?
double post. This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 09-14-2004 03:51 PM
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CK
Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 73 of 271 (143377)
09-20-2004 4:36 PM
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Reply to: Message 71 by Phat 09-20-2004 12:39 PM
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Re: Peter, Paul, and Mary..(Well,not Mary)
What a lot of old crap - I'm getting sick of those tired tired old chestnuts.
They deliberately suppress any connection of spiritual truths and attempt to construct theories devoid of any such reference. 1.Your evidence of "deliberate" suppression? - your personal fantasies don't count. I know one group who have had 100s of years of practice and it ain't scientists... (and I can back that with 100s of examples)
This is not any less biased, however, for many of these people merely want to get noticed in their own little circle of (mostly atheist) scholars Your asseration is that most scholars (historians at least) are atheist. I would like you to back or retract that claim as per the rules of this forum.
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CK
Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 76 of 271 (143387)
09-20-2004 4:52 PM
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Reply to: Message 75 by Trump won 09-20-2004 4:45 PM
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Well only if people belive in the concept of Sin - I don't believe in that or your Jesus person.
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CK
Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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yes - still not a sin and those don't magic your jesus guy into existance. I'm always up for things that are morally unsound - well as long as their husbands are out. This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 09-29-2004 07:22 PM
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CK
Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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so anything I think is morally wrong is a sin? I think being a christian is morally wrong.
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CK
Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 113 of 271 (145902)
09-30-2004 5:37 AM
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Reply to: Message 112 by Phat 09-30-2004 3:59 AM
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Re: Of course, which God are we talking about?
Well actually I don't - but if a sin is what I think is morally wrong, then I could,no?
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CK
Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 152 of 271 (150458)
10-17-2004 6:40 AM
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Reply to: Message 150 by Rrhain 10-16-2004 9:15 PM
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Re: NIV translation
How odd is that - "by changing the sense and some of the language used, it is a more accurate record..." em...eh..
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CK
Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 189 of 271 (154575)
10-31-2004 7:33 AM
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Reply to: Message 188 by riVeRraT 10-31-2004 7:26 AM
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quote: You need to find a new way of listening, because your the only one who deosn't understand what I say, self check yourself first.
Well that's funny because you seem to confirm his view with your first statement.
quote: Congradulations, you have just called all Jews who follow Jesus idiots.
Defacto - those who don't are idiots thus proving Rrhian's point.
quote: Pascal's Wager.
Not sure what this has to do with the subject but frankly it's full of holes anyway.
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CK
Member (Idle past 4157 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: 07-04-2004
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Message 194 of 271 (154598)
10-31-2004 11:33 AM
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Reply to: Message 192 by riVeRraT 10-31-2004 7:50 AM
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Is that reply meant to be in code?
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