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Author Topic:   Is man inherently good or inherently evil?
PecosGeorge
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Message 167 of 271 (153351)
10-27-2004 10:12 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Trump won
09-11-2004 4:00 PM


Lucifer, son of the morning
this passage is a reference to Satan, the father of all lies. It describes his origin and how he progressed to sinfulness.
There is more to read about it in the rest of Chapter 28.
The king of Tyrus here is representative.
11 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
12 Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.
13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.
14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.
16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.
19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.
Hope that helps.
We are as we are as a result of how he became and how we made/make ourselves subject to him starting with Adam.

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PecosGeorge
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From: Texas
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Message 168 of 271 (153355)
10-27-2004 10:22 AM
Reply to: Message 157 by jar
10-24-2004 4:44 PM


if you
love someone, you want to show that love (works) or the love is meaningless. They rather go hand in hand - and must - as shown.
It is really just common sense.

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