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Author Topic:   A statement of my disbeliefs
Checkmate
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Message 29 of 87 (203002)
04-27-2005 12:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by CK
04-25-2005 9:01 AM


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I thought that it may be interesting for those who don't believe in the christian god to outline what their views are on the existance of God or Gods.
Interesting and thought provoking and I can live with that.
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ME: The more I experience and the more I read on those forums and other places, the more I am convinced that the God of the christians and the muslims is a deadend - a construction of the human mind.
I noticed thaat you have only mentioned "Christians and Muslims", why? What about Jews, Hindus, or else? Why you have singled out two groups. Obviously you are denying Christian God and Muslim God, while acknowledging the God of others?
By the way, why your knolwedge and/or processing capacity of limited to this forum and other places? Do you have an animated mind and can you think yourself? I have no problem if you are a absolute atheist. But you are a half-baked one or perhaps a partial atheist who happened to be a bigot as well.
I am not sure about the level of you knowledge and education. But mere denial is not enough to establish a claim. You are obligated to provide the evidence that God does not exist. So do you have any proof that Muslim God does not exist and is a construction of human mind? I like to take you on for this!!!
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That does not mean that I have entirely discounted the idea of "God" but rather I have found those particular franchises to be wanting.
Present the evidence?
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It could be that I discover God in the Torah or some other place, who knows?
Interesting, show me the proof of God existance in Torah (your version) and we will take it from there? Because I believe I can prove otherwise to you, not that I believe that.
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So basically - God could exist but I currently don't see anything to convince me at present.
So if the God exist according to you then it has to be in Torah, not before Torah and not after Torah?
Well your trible God long ceased to exist, you are living in the wrong era.
Checkmate

"An uninformed person cannot conceptualize the essence of knowledge nor its sublimity. One who fails to conceptualize something, its significance will never become rooted in the heart."

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Checkmate
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Message 31 of 87 (203006)
04-27-2005 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by Adminnemooseus
04-25-2005 6:10 PM


Re: Take to to one of the "Practice Makes Perfect" avatar topics
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Messages 14-17 are off-topic avatar chit-chat. ENOUGH!
Adminnemooseus
It is interesting to observe that almost all posts in this thread are off topic and off target. But when Christians' tried to confront "General Krull" for his prejudicial assertion, he is dodging the issue and rudely telling them this is an atheist thread etcetera etcetera.
This only proves to me that in this forum in the presence of moderators certain belief (atheist) can assault any faith recklessly without proving their claims. If I recall correctly it is called "Prejudice."
Prejudice is an opinion without judgment, mind you that a judgment requires forensic and/or empirical evidence and due deliberation.
On the other hand, General Krull has the gall to start a thread about religion using complete distortion and /or disinformation about Islaam. That proves nothing but the absolute ignorance of GK on the subject matter.
May I ask that why this forum has this double standard? If you guys want to bash religions for the sake of bashing, please do that. I don't care about that.
But if you want to use reason and logic and want to make your case by presenting evidence and/or facts (either way), then you must cease to suppress the dissent and allow the accused to confront you, especially of those whose religion is under assault by your prejudicial assertions.
This thread is like "my way or no way."
This message has been edited by Checkmate, 04-27-2005 12:55 PM

"An uninformed person cannot conceptualize the essence of knowledge nor its sublimity. One who fails to conceptualize something, its significance will never become rooted in the heart."

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Checkmate
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Message 32 of 87 (203009)
04-27-2005 1:02 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by CK
04-27-2005 12:40 PM


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I noticed thaat you have only mentioned "Christians and Muslims", why? What about Jews, Hindus, or else? Why you have singled out two groups. Obviously you are denying Christian God and Muslim God, while acknowledging the God of others?
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Where am I acknowledging other gods? I have never read the religion works of Jews,Hindus or others and thus cannot comment on their claims. It's like asking to judge a cake I've never tasted.
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Interesting, show me the proof of God existance in Torah (your version) and we will take it from there? Because I believe I can prove otherwise to you, not that I believe that.
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I have never read the torah, it's an examplar.
Then what are your qualifications and/or sources of knowledge for denying Muslims' God? How did you reach to this conclsuion that Muslims' God is a product of human mind?
How do you define "God?"
There is no concept of alleged "God" is Islaam, it is rather "Allaah." This shows that you cannot differentiate between "alleged" God and Allaah. I have also noticed and concluded that you are clueless of Islaam. Thereforem, my question is, how dare you speaks bluntly of issues you have no knowledge of?
Can you present your evidence to me that Allaah does not exist or "God does not exist? Because mere denial is not a proof itself?
What do you think are the sources of knowledge?
Can you also tell me briefly about your background? I suspect that you have a Judeo-Christian back ground, but I may be wrong. It will give me a sense of reference that who I am dealing with.

"An uninformed person cannot conceptualize the essence of knowledge nor its sublimity. One who fails to conceptualize something, its significance will never become rooted in the heart."

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