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EZscience
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Message 40 of 87 (206864)
05-10-2005 8:43 PM
Reply to: Message 37 by ProfessorR
05-10-2005 3:35 PM


ProfessorR writes:
The reason I believe in God is, essentially, my fear of death and my desire to exist forever.
So you admit thet your inability to deal with your own mortality is what causes you to grasp at the straw of religion !?
ProfessorR writes:
unless people begin to do horrible things for the sake of their vanity or insecurity, *believing*, very mistakenly, that they do it for the sake of God, the concept of God is not bad at all.
Here you put your finger on the crux of the problem.
People (in power) do evil things all the time in the name of some religion, thus reducing the value of religon in general for all mankind. More wars have been fought, and more injustices perpetrated, in the name of religion than for any other reason.
ProfessorR writes:
why do some people want to eliminate the concept of God from existence?
Because it is such an effective mechanism for deceiving the uneducated.
It can be so easily mis-used to mold the consciousness of people who have neither the intellect nor the motivation to think for themselves and seek rational scientific answers for the real-life phenonmenon they observe. (that can require some hard thinking, as opposed to the simplicity of blind belief in some dogma).
And because it can be so easily used as political tool to manipulate the ignorant.

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EZscience
Member (Idle past 5184 days)
Posts: 961
From: A wheatfield in Kansas
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Message 43 of 87 (206942)
05-11-2005 5:28 AM
Reply to: Message 42 by coffee_addict
05-10-2005 11:05 PM


Faith as a prerequisite for ellectability in the US
Troy writes:
(sometime in the near future hopefully), saying the word "god" in ever other sentence in your speech will be considered a political suicide in the future.
One can only hope.
Troy writes:
...the overwhelming majority of the people still do not trust non-religious people
I believe this to be currently true in the USA and probably in many Islamic theocracies.
However, it would probably not be the case in other devoloped countries such as Canada or France that have a more secular society and government.
I would prefer to see us emulate these societies to a greater degree, but its not going to happen any time soon.
This is because of the inter-generational persistence of religion.
Those of faith are typically very focussed on making sure their kids are programed to believe exactly as they do.
Troy writes:
I want to see religion as a right for people to have but not something so mainstream that you absolutely have to follow it to have a chance at taking a public office.
Unfortunately, the latter seems to be the case in the US right now.
Both presidential candidates took every opportunity to demonstrate that they were 'men of faith'.
I found this disturbing, personally.
I don't care what they believe, but they shouldn't feel compelled to advertise it to be considered eligible leaders by the populace.
You can see how this might be expected to raise some animosity among atheists toward the religious right.
These people mis-trust others for the wrong reasons, and fail to mis-trust a lot of people that they should mistrust, simply because of stated religious beliefs.
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