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riVeRraT
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Message 54 of 102 (185712)
02-15-2005 11:31 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Aximili23
02-12-2005 7:29 AM


Question
Question, if Humans on a scale of 1-100 were 100, and the amoeba was a .01, where would the most intelligent animal/mammal fall on that scale?
Secondly, I always wondered if animals go to heaven(I never really researched it all that much, I hoped they do). I was always under the impression that they didn't. Then I remember reading somewhere, and them backing it up biblically that yes animals do go to heaven.
Then I found this on the internet, not sure how true this is, but it raises some questions.
Bible Study - You Have Questions. The Bible Has Answers!
Another point is, why would the intelligence of animals be a threat to us? It is written in the bible:
1 Corinthians 6:3
Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!
That makes me feel pretty important, and animals have a long way to go.
But the gap in intelligence between humans and other species, makes me wonder about evolution. Why are we the only ones so advanced? A lot of time has elapsed since the begining, but only one makes it this far?
Why don't monkeys talk without our help? How come they don't drive pink cadillacs? Why aren't they wearing clothes?
Even more suspicious are alligators, why aren't they using tools or other intelligent ways of surviving out of necessity?
I'm sure someone here will explain it all, and they will have pretty good explanations, but you still have to wonder.
A little further research, and I found this essay:
Do Animals Go to Heaven?
I agree with the author, I want to see my dead dog sox again.

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riVeRraT
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Message 56 of 102 (185755)
02-16-2005 6:11 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by crashfrog
02-16-2005 2:12 AM


Re: Question
I bet you could be that species right now, don't you.

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riVeRraT
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Message 84 of 102 (186308)
02-17-2005 5:12 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by crashfrog
02-16-2005 11:44 AM


Re: Question
Your a funny guy. You nswer yourself, but you don't read your own answers.
Ok first, you assume I am calling you stupid, which I have done nothing of the sort. I mearly pointed out, that you wouldn't want to be that species, so then you really shouldn't compare yourself to it. Makes sense right? I did it with rehtoric, and that's allowed here.
Then you go one to point out forum rules, after calling me a smartass, way to go hypocrite!

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riVeRraT
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Message 86 of 102 (186344)
02-17-2005 6:28 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by pink sasquatch
02-17-2005 5:53 PM


Re: icky comparisons
But it's so silly.
Hey mom, can I go over Johnny's house?'
No
Why not?
Because.
But other kids do.
Clearly, being intelligent isn't all that great an adaptation. The most successful species on Eath, after all, do just fine without it.
Do I even know what species he was talking about?
I could guess, roaches?
Then I replied, "I bet you could be that species right now, don't you. "
Which even though I left out the question mark, it was a question, so there-for could not be an insult. All he had to do was answer no.
So first he claims that intelligence isn't all that, then he get's insulted because he thinks I'm calling him stupid? If intelligence isn't all that, then why get insulted, if you think I am calling you stupid, you obviously hold non-intelligence in such high regards, what's the big deal? Being called stupid should be a compliment, no?
Utterly ridiculus. If he got insulted, or you, then it's your problem, not my comment.

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riVeRraT
Member (Idle past 446 days)
Posts: 5788
From: NY USA
Joined: 05-09-2004


Message 90 of 102 (186484)
02-18-2005 9:37 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by pink sasquatch
02-18-2005 9:19 AM


Re: icky comparisons
I bet you could be one of those species right now, don't you.
Right now, yes I do.

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