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Message 1 of 127 (48972)
08-06-2003 5:34 PM


I bet when designing this sight it must have looked really good on paper. An equal chance for evolutionists and creationists to express their views. Well in my opinion its not working. Maybe I'm wrong but the creators of this site also seem biased. I look at certain forums and it makes me sick, there are no challengers against evolutionists. If they post something no creationists usually respond, just evolutionists coming in quiet agreement with eachother. If there was a limited number of evolutionists and an equal limited number of creationist this sight might work. I mean there are actual evolution scientists that go on this site but I havent seen any creation scientists. This also poses problems when a new person enters the site and is looking for the right belief, creation or evolution and only finds evolutionists opinions, then is quickly convinced that evolution is right without a second thought of creation....
I guess all I can say is oh well.
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Message 21 of 127 (49045)
08-07-2003 12:11 AM


ha...
Yeah Percy, common mistake "sight" lol yeah that is pathetic
Anyway, yes there are " creation scientists", called this because they have vast degrees in science (which would make you a scientist) but as many consider a fault, they believe in creation. I notice you have 2 screen names, you often try to rouse evidence against creation. I think your intent at making this site was not to show a balanced argument but to make a site swayed in favor of evolution. I'm sure I will get criticized for this post because there was only one other creationist defending against you guys..... I also noticed the picture of the week depicting the biggest "stumbling" block in creation. You may not be informed of a creation scientist named Humphreys who provides a very viable theory to prove it is no stumbling block, his book is called "Starlight and Time". I highly recommend you read it. As for creationists I would invite: Kent Hovind ( Dinosaur Adventure Land ). I recommend that site to you also, to look through it and read the articles and look at the pictures of evidence supporting creation. I also noticed you criticize my one spelling error.... Hmmm I'm starting to think you are trying to down me as ignorant. Maybe I'm wrong. Also Hugh Ross is not a creationist.

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Message 22 of 127 (49049)
08-07-2003 12:25 AM


one more thing....
There is no perfect way to run this site but my only suggestion on how to make it fair... is to resign your position as owner and runner of this sight and give your position to a neutral person who possibly doesnt care how the world came about. This suggestion may sound extreme but I feel it may be the only way. I realize this wont happen but hey, a kid can dream
"I believe in christianity as I believe the sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else."-C.S. Lewis

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Message 24 of 127 (49053)
08-07-2003 12:56 AM


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Just pointing it out because I had no idea, I just joined remember..... AND
bump....
Percy I'm waiting for what you think of what I wrote......
thanks
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Message 29 of 127 (49058)
08-07-2003 1:45 AM


hmmmm
No I didnt know that. Since you are not him I will not take your advice, I'll email him myself along with that proposal that was seconded by the other creationist on the site....
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Message 30 of 127 (49059)
08-07-2003 1:46 AM


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"Crazy Dr. Dino" seems logical to me. I'll get back to you with that reply you made.
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Message 31 of 127 (49060)
08-07-2003 2:05 AM


I contacted Dr. Hovind
For all those wondering...... I just contacted Dr. Hovind by email and gave him the details of the site and asked him to come here and become a member and help us creationists because our numbers are so few. Hopefully he will be able to join, I also asked him about the information that was said about the college he went to and if he had a false degree etc. Hopefully this will work out. He also has a toll-free number I may call. I will fill everyone in when he emails me back or when I call.
reply with your comments,
Chris
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Message 51 of 127 (49167)
08-07-2003 3:24 PM


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"Part of the problem for you, messenjaH, is that the predominance of evolutionists vis a vis creationists on this board is a reflection of the overwhelming support which evolution has in the better educated English-speaking world compared with religious dogma such as creationism."
Oh really. The first part of your reply is another stereotypical comment of how creationists are ignorant and that evolutionists are "better educated". I look at the other creationists on this site and they seem equally intelligent with the evolutionists such as: TC, Conspirator, and the wiz kid guy (despite his spelling errors) and others. You also refer to creation as religious dogma. And what do you think evolution is? Surely you realize it as religion. "You are your own God" type thing. A popular saying fits this sight well: "Quantity not quality." The only thing not educated about this site was your reply.
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Message 53 of 127 (49171)
08-07-2003 3:31 PM


Re: again
Prophecyexclaimed explanation of Hugh Ross I also believe so I wont reply about that, as for Percy's request of me finding new moderators, this is my suggestion: Find some people who need a job that are neutral in this debate to do this task..... Now I realize those requirements for a moderator are nearly impossible to fill so maybe you should do it: half creationists, half evolutionists?
Thanks for asking my opinion lol, though I know you were trying to get me to come to the conclusion that barely anyone is neutral in this topic.
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Message 54 of 127 (49172)
08-07-2003 3:36 PM


crashfrog
He may believe something he finds hard to do... A life without a computer in this day and age is hard to live without, if no christian
had a computer this site would be useless, and so would your absurd remarks.... Oh wait, they already are.
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Message 61 of 127 (49188)
08-07-2003 4:24 PM


Re: crash, paul
I know evolution never states "be your own God", but in essence thats what the human nature behind it is. See us humans dont like to have a boss and go to prove at great lengths there is no boss and that we are the boss. Darwin never said this your right, but I believe thats the thought behind it.
Crash you have no idea why creationists leave you are only speculating.
Paul I am not sticking a label on Hugh Ross, I'm taking one off of him. See he doesnt interpret the bible differently because in the bible, in genesis, it clearly says "day", I cant see how anyone can reinterpret that as being "billions of years". Hes "siding with the enemy" in a way.
Prophecy believes that story and of what Jesus said: not to care of worldly things. Also if we lived at the time when Jesus walked as a man I would give my things away and walk with him. But now is a different time, to witness to vast majorities of people outside of your area a computer is a necessity.
I know the evolution theory like the back of my hand and to say I dont you would be wrong. If I didnt yes I would be "ignorant".
Being hypocritical is one of my biggest faults and what I said before did not come out right. I apologize for that.
Maybe the creationists left because they realize the sites biased or they just happened to notice they were out numbered.
Who knows?
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Message 62 of 127 (49193)
08-07-2003 4:28 PM


Re: paul again
"Who is going to understand science better - an armchair scientist or an armchair religious apologist?"
Would that "armchair scientist" believe in evolution because if so I think both would understand science the same.. That is if the "armchair religious apologist" was also a scientist.....
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Message 65 of 127 (49203)
08-07-2003 4:49 PM


I already responded to why the creationists might have might have left. I will start a new thread to debate with you once I find a topic that has not already been made. I also meant to say the sites owner is biased not the site* my fault. Anyway, yeah I'll get back to you on that.
thanks,
-Chris
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Message 68 of 127 (49207)
08-07-2003 4:58 PM


Re: paul
What evidence? Would you like to enlighten me briefly on what you consider evidence for evolution? 2 Peter also speaks of false teachings. The verse you are referring to " a day like a thousand years, a thousand years like a day", that in my mind is symbolic to show that God knows all before it happens. Also notice he used the word "like" and not simply "is".
thanks for your feedback,
-Chris
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Message 69 of 127 (49208)
08-07-2003 5:00 PM


confusion....
Paul the message that you just replied to was not intended for you, it was intended for Crash.
thanks,
-Chris
[This message has been edited by messenjaH, 08-07-2003]
[This message has been edited by messenjaH, 08-07-2003]

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