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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
To Pecos: I believe Ron was claiming that the Israelis have the ark which he found in the cave and are keeping the wraps on it. When I heard him lecture and present his expeditions slides back in the 1980s as I remember that is what he claimed.
To All: I've always stated that Wyatt was a pioneer in searching out the actual scripturally compatible aspects of the Dead Sea crossing, Mt Sinai and Noah's ark site. I believe these sites are Biblical and viable. I have also always offered my disclaimer that I do not think some of the research of Wyatt is credible. I do accept the more scientific research of Moeller and some others who have done a more thorough and proper investigation of the details. As for the ark story, I'm of the opinion that the arc was likely hidden somewhere when it could not be protected. If there is a cave under the cross site, some aspects of the story is possible. Is the story credible? I just don't know and I don't think you people know any more than I about the credibility of an ark being found in a cave. As for the ark in Heaven I believe that will not be the earthly ark. However, I do see the possibility that God has preserved the original earthly ark to be used at the 2nd advent of his kingly/priestly messiah, Jesus when he returns to the earth as prophesied. Could this be why Israel kept the wraps on Wyatt's (abe: alleged) discovery? Again, I see that as a possibility but am certainly not claiming it as having to be the case. One thing I am convinced of is that there existed a real Arc Of The Covenant and the possibility of it having been hid somewhere is very likely. That would likely have been at the time of the destruction of the temple by Titus's army and being besieged, the likely area of securing it would be within the close proximity of Jerusalem where the Temple was. The blood of the sacrifices over the centuries having been applied to the mercy seat, would God have had it so as to have the blood of Jesus literally being applied to the ark? I dono, but the possibility of that does make some sense . Edited by Buzsaw, : Edit Moeller spelling et al BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Mutty writes: Does Moller or others that you find credible have any other evidence besides Wyatt's? I only ask because I really don't know, and am curious to see other evidence. Hi Mutty. Welcome to EvC, btw. Please note that I misspelled Moeller's name as well as ark. I'll go edit the correct spelling into my last post. So far as I'm aware he's done extensive research on the Aqaba crossing and corroborating stuff there, but not aware of any on the ark. I have his book and will check it out. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
I agree, Mutty. According to Wyatt he was allegedly restricted by the government as to what he was allowed to photograph and research. Could the presence of orthodox Jews in govt et al be a factor in the reluctance of making public the association of the AOC and blood with Jesus whom they reject? Again, just a speculative thought.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Hi CK. When I heard Ron lecture back in the 1980s he said relatively little about the AOC including most of the details itemized in this link. It reads more like some kind of a vision or dream than something that would have actually happened if all of this is claimed by him. I'm becoming very skeptical about most of this AOC stuff from what's being produced. It appears that he's found some significant stuff, but has gone awry in some promotion tactics. Maybe that's why God didn't let him finish the job on the more significant stuff like Noah's ark and the Nuweiba crossing. God knows.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
MUTTY writes: Both Nighttrain and Buzsaw have pointed to the exodus video as legit but still dodge the questions posted in the original OP for which most of us have asked for some type of reasoning for such poor evidence. The video I refer to was on the Exodus which was not a Wyatt video. I've never seen a Wyatt video on anything. I wrote him several times indicating that when his video came out I wanted a copy. He talked like one was in the works, but never came through on that for me. I've offered my thoughts on why there may be so little evidence on the AOC blood, et al, but the more I'm finding out about the AOC stuff, the more skeptical I'm becoming on that aspect of Ron's work. It appears that after finding some significant stuff he may have begun resorting to promoting himself rather than limiting published information on the research to what was actually found. His profession was an anathesiologist. Could he have been whiffing up some gas on occasions and becoming illusional or something? I just dono. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
He pioneered the Ararat foothills Noah Ark site along with the corroborating ballast stones, the Nuweiba Aqaba sandbar coral crusted chariot wheel discovery, the more Biblical Mt Sinai in Arabia, and other significant corroborating stuff regarding the Exodus. By applying literal Biblical data to research, he pioneered the most Biblical route the Exodus would have taken and in doing so discovered what the Bible indicated should be there.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Who but God could have died for you to save you. It was God's son who died. God has never died nor ever will die. Edited by Buzsaw, : Fix quotes BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Ifen writes: I was just taking an example from the trinitarians on this board. It doesn't change the general meaning of my comment if you substitute "God's son" for "God" though. God didn't die. God's son Jesus died. Any trinitarians who don't understand the functions of the members of the trinity need to brush up on their trinitarian doctrine. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Jehovah the father is father and god of Jesus the son of the true god Jehovah. Jesus himself always refers to his father as God or Father. The thread is about the blood of Jesus, not the blood of God his father. Jesus and God are considered one via the Holy Spirit which is both the spirit of the father and of the son.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Arach writes: i'm still having problems figuring out whether or not you are a trinitarian. ie: is jesus god, or not? I consider myself to be a trinitarian. 1. The (abe: only true) god Jehovah, the father. 2. The son of the god Jehovah, Jesus. 3. The spirit of both the god Jehovah and the son of the god Jehovah, the Holy Spirit. They are one in that they both share the same spirit, the same spirit that makes us children of God our heavenly father. God is our father and Jesus is our saviour/lord/master who intercedes for us to the father. Thus we pray to God the father in the name of Jesus. Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW
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