Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 65 (9164 total)
1 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,913 Year: 4,170/9,624 Month: 1,041/974 Week: 0/368 Day: 0/11 Hour: 0/0


EvC Forum ⇒ Science Forums ⇒ Is It Science? ⇒

Blood of Jesus

Thread ▼ Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Blood of Jesus
arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days)
Posts: 9069
From: god's waiting room
Joined: 05-21-2004

Normal Thread Display
Message 69 of 105 (323678)
06-20-2006 12:42 AM 		Reply to: Message 68 by MUTTY6969
06-20-2006 12:32 AM

Re: Ark of the Covenant
well, isn't obvious? i mean, most everybody there must be jewish, right? surely most of the government is. and we know all jews are involved in the world wide underground conspiracy network. all you have to do is put two and two together and five.
​
—
​
This message is a reply to:
 Message 68 by MUTTY6969, posted 06-20-2006 12:32 AM MUTTY6969 has replied
Replies to this message:
 Message 70 by MUTTY6969, posted 06-20-2006 1:01 AM arachnophilia has not replied
 Message 81 by lfen, posted 06-21-2006 2:07 AM arachnophilia has replied
  
arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days)
Posts: 9069
From: god's waiting room
Joined: 05-21-2004

Normal Thread Display
Message 84 of 105 (324182)
06-21-2006 2:56 AM 		Reply to: Message 81 by lfen
06-21-2006 2:07 AM

Re: Ark of the Covenant
I think Buz has a more specific idea that the Jews would do anything to prevent any body presenting evidence to support the Christian claim of Jesus as the Messiah.
​
And I think he gets this from Wyatt himself who uses Jewish and Muslim opposition to Christianity as one excuse why he doesn't have evidence. It's a canny excuse on Wyatt's part as it plays into the prejudices of his audience and there is a long history of conflict that this plays into.
​
it's still a conspiracy theory. and frankly, for all the christian holy sites and relics in jerusalem that are far, far better documented and established than any of wyatt's claims, it's a BAD conspiracy theory too.
​
as a side note, one time i went for a walk with this lady from my hebrew class. we were going to go pickup an honored guest speaker, the former israeli ambasador to ethiopia who was responsible for the exodus of several thousand ethiopian jews a few years back during the civil war there. i turned to her, and asked "how do you keep getting these incredibly important and famous people to come speak to our little class of a dozen people?"
​
she said, "oh, i just called someone who happened to know him..."
​
so i said, "so basically, the evil underground jewish conspiracy network?"
​
she shoots me this dirty look, half "antisemitism!" half "how the hell do you know about that?" ...then realizes i'm kidding.
​
This message is a reply to:
 Message 81 by lfen, posted 06-21-2006 2:07 AM lfen has replied
Replies to this message:
 Message 86 by lfen, posted 06-21-2006 11:08 AM arachnophilia has not replied
  
arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days)
Posts: 9069
From: god's waiting room
Joined: 05-21-2004

Normal Thread Display
Message 96 of 105 (326214)
06-25-2006 10:30 PM 		Reply to: Message 94 by Buzsaw
06-25-2006 10:08 PM

Re: God Did Not Die
It was God's son who died. God has never died nor ever will die.
​
jesus ≠ god?
​
This message is a reply to:
 Message 94 by Buzsaw, posted 06-25-2006 10:08 PM Buzsaw has replied
Replies to this message:
 Message 97 by lfen, posted 06-25-2006 11:23 PM arachnophilia has replied
 Message 100 by Buzsaw, posted 06-28-2006 12:06 AM arachnophilia has replied
  
arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days)
Posts: 9069
From: god's waiting room
Joined: 05-21-2004

Normal Thread Display
Message 98 of 105 (326233)
06-25-2006 11:34 PM 		Reply to: Message 97 by lfen
06-25-2006 11:23 PM

Re: God Did Not Die
as far as i am aware, buz is a trinitarian. but i could be wrong, which is why i was asking.
​
personally, i am a non-trinitarian myself.
​
They point out that there is no real support for the Trinity doctrine in the Gospels.
​
debatable, actually. we have debated it here many times before, too. fomr some of the verses in question, jw's have a non-standard translation, that render even less support for the idea.
​
This message is a reply to:
 Message 97 by lfen, posted 06-25-2006 11:23 PM lfen has not replied
  
arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days)
Posts: 9069
From: god's waiting room
Joined: 05-21-2004

Normal Thread Display
Message 101 of 105 (327043)
06-28-2006 2:39 AM 		Reply to: Message 100 by Buzsaw
06-28-2006 12:06 AM

Re: God Did Not Die
i'm still having problems figuring out whether or not you are a trinitarian. ie: is jesus god, or not?
​
This message is a reply to:
 Message 100 by Buzsaw, posted 06-28-2006 12:06 AM Buzsaw has replied
Replies to this message:
 Message 102 by Buzsaw, posted 07-02-2006 10:22 PM arachnophilia has replied
  
arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days)
Posts: 9069
From: god's waiting room
Joined: 05-21-2004

Normal Thread Display
Message 103 of 105 (328367)
07-02-2006 10:37 PM 		Reply to: Message 102 by Buzsaw
07-02-2006 10:22 PM

Re: God Did Not Die
ok, that clears it up for me, i think. thanks for clarifying.
This message is a reply to:
 Message 102 by Buzsaw, posted 07-02-2006 10:22 PM Buzsaw has not replied
Replies to this message:
 Message 104 by lfen, posted 07-02-2006 11:50 PM arachnophilia has replied
  
arachnophilia
Member (Idle past 1374 days)
Posts: 9069
From: god's waiting room
Joined: 05-21-2004

Normal Thread Display
Message 105 of 105 (328381)
07-03-2006 12:18 AM 		Reply to: Message 104 by lfen
07-02-2006 11:50 PM

Re: God, a mulitple personality?
I don't grasp the trinity concept. It seems like some sort of political compromise that came out of the early church, a kind of diplomatic language with vagueness of concept that would allow all the parties to think their view point was represented, but it leaves the impression that God has a case of split personality.
​
no argument here. i've made my case a few times before on this issue. i don't see the logic in it either (being a former trinitarian myself)
​
i was just trying to figure out what buzsaw meant, because his first comment seemed to indicate that he was also a non-trinitarian.
​
This message is a reply to:
 Message 104 by lfen, posted 07-02-2006 11:50 PM lfen has not replied
  
Date format: mm-dd-yyyy
Timezone: ET (US)
  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024