Big Bang Critics

hi all just found this site. No matter what I believe or anyone else, there is only one truth. I believe in that truth. I don't quite understand it but that's how I got to this forum in the first place. I believe the big bang "could" have happened. I don't believe there is any solid proof which man has. But i believe that if the big bang happened it happened because God willed or spoke it into existence. I don't think God is a magician. I believe everything that he does can be explained. That does not mean he did not do it. If I start a fire, scientist can explain how the fire started; does this now mean I did not start it? an object at rest remains at rest until acted upon by an outside force. If the universe was ever at rest, then even science laws stated that an outside force (God) changed that.

"With a God who's obviously very adamant that he doesn't want to be believed in? As a believer I'd say that you have far more to fear from God than I do. I'm simply taking him at his word. You? You're determined to disobey his very clear and obvious intention to not have people believe in him, and how do you think he's going to react to that?"God is very adamant that he wants the world to believe, know, love, and fear, him. It is man who try to cover him up. He isn't Freddy Kruger, he does not need anyone to believe in him to exist. you have every right not to believe in him; but you also have every right to burn in hell if you don't. Don't mean to be harsh but that's my beliefs.

Good to hear.Perhaps you would care to exercise the grey matter and postulate the mechanism by which willpower or voice can create a universe? What does it mean to have willpower? Indeed,what is willpower sir? I will bet you have not thought this through very well.I have sir. I don't have an explanation for will power. I think it breaks the rules of what we know. I believe the 90 or so percent of our brain we don't understand is the key to the will power. We are not the smartest in the universe; God is. I'm no scientist but I could have been. I'm just a deep thinker, an independent philosopher if you will. A reasoner.

In other words, faith unnencumbered by any real evidence. I suggest you read the forum guidlines before you get much further with posting your unsubstantiated assertions, specifically as regards the science forums (of which this thread is one).When you post on the scientific forums you are expected to be able to provide evidence for your claims, so I could ask you to verify not just that "there is only one truth" but that it is what you claim, noting in passing that words in a book are not evidence and that real evidence is observable by anyone.Other than that, you are welcome to your opinions whatever they are and however arrogant and petty they are, and welcome to the fray.I don't know how long I'll be here if I can't do that because in order to discuss evo vs cre, one would state facts for evo and have to only discuss beliefs with cre. there is no facts about creation without faith. By this I mean mankind cannot understand God (the whole idea of faith). Therefore if you can't explain God (due to ignorance of mankind); then how can you prove he created us when you can't "prove" he exist. There is proof all around us but that's "nature." That's why "i beleive" is in front of everything i say. It's proven; but you won't understand it. I also don't understand it. I just thought the whole point was to respectfully discuss facts of evo vs beliefs of cre. Creation is a belief. That's the name of the website. THAT'S THE ONLY REASON I CAME HERE.(not screaming just emphasis). Is there another subsection to discuss this?

I don't know if you have read Gerald Schroeder or not. You would enjoy "The Hidden Face of God". In that book he deals with faith and science and his conclusions are similar to yoursThat's scary because that is exactly what I meant and I thought I was the only one who saw it like this. Scientist please check this out.http://www.geraldschroeder.com/new.htmlhe may be able to speak more on ya'll level; but that's what I mean.

All off topic -- however tempting the errors of fact posted here are --- do not answer!

what "scientific proof" do you have then sir that you do use all of your brain. I amaze myself everyday. Do you? If not then maybe your brain is maxed out; mine is not. Is your only proof the fact that you can't shoot yourself in the brain and still function right? Also, what scientific proof is there against creation? I believe evolution is possible but does not rule out creation but actually goes with it. Science would actually be a belief also being that it is based on the beleif in laws man made. "Darwin stated" "Newton stated" Can they be wrong. It was once scientific law that the Earth was flat until chris got high, got lost and found the other side. Until then, no one could prove the earth was round. You have you're faith; I have mine.REBEL WITH A CAUSE!!This message has been edited by AdminNosy, 09-26-2005 02:17 AM