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Author Topic:   New Hubble pictures, YEC explanations just don't make sense.
Melchior
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Message 6 of 129 (91522)
03-10-2004 8:04 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Dr Jack
03-10-2004 7:09 AM


Isn't the commonly used YEC explanation exactly the opposite: that light travels *faster* the further away from earth it is?

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Melchior
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Message 8 of 129 (91540)
03-10-2004 10:19 AM
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03-10-2004 8:13 AM


I have yet to encounter a YEC who argues that the world is billions and billions of years *older* than the currently accepted cosmological figure, but...
Pretty soon we'll have to bunch them all together in a group we call People, and then you'll never know what comes out.

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Melchior
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Message 14 of 129 (91717)
03-11-2004 5:53 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Reef
03-11-2004 3:20 AM


quote:
Your arguing a point based on evidence that you cannot prove so how can you possibly expect a conclusion?
It's evidence! You don't prove evidence, you observe it.

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Melchior
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Message 96 of 129 (92002)
03-12-2004 2:03 AM
Reply to: Message 93 by Reef
03-12-2004 1:55 AM


Re: Columbus knew the earth was round
It depends on the curve. Some curves, like for example if you want to integrate f(x)=x (simple line going upwards) from 0 to infinity, you get infinity as area.
Other curves (can anyone give a direct example) behave in ways which creates a limited area.
I strongly suggest you take a basic math course if you want to learn how to do this yourself.

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Melchior
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Message 117 of 129 (92056)
03-12-2004 8:40 AM
Reply to: Message 98 by Reef
03-12-2004 2:06 AM


Re: Columbus knew the earth was round
"lol i did thanx!! but please be my guest how big is the area under the curve f(x)=x ?"
You use integration to solve this. In simple steps, since it's a simple problem.
The area made is in this case a triangle. It has the lenght x and the height f(x)=x. The formula for the area of a triangle is height * lenght / 2.
So, you can just put in values for x and get values for the area out.
Now, in calculus you can do something else, which is rather useful. You can say that a variable *approaches* a value. In our case, we want to know what the area approaches as x approaches infinity.
In this specific case, we can easily see that it approaches infinity. That is, the area in an infinitely big triangle is infinitely large.
Note that this does not mean that all curves gives this answer, but it illustrated easily that math CAN and DO work with infinities, but you have to be careful with them if you want to get something useful out.
I'll give you a small test to see if you can understand the basic concept. Take the function x/2x, and let x go towards infinity. What is the actual value of the function in this case?

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