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Message 967 of 1197 (907882)
03-01-2023 1:21 PM
Reply to: Message 965 by Taq
03-01-2023 10:49 AM


Re: Typical?
It was an example of data. Now you add the requirement of data to have to be scientific, in this simple context of an example even. This is what you evolutionists do. You been shown that your arguments fail, so you change the rules as you fit.

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Message 969 of 1197 (907886)
03-01-2023 1:28 PM
Reply to: Message 966 by Taq
03-01-2023 10:54 AM


Re: Typical?
And you think mankind have always been able to observe and measure movents of other planets?
In early days, when we only had observations of Sun moving through sky during the day, geocentric was more parimonious.
Parsimony rule is not perfect, so don't hold on to it like it's a must follow rule.

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Message 971 of 1197 (907890)
03-01-2023 1:31 PM
Reply to: Message 964 by Granny Magda
03-01-2023 9:09 AM


Re: Typical?
If you insist on this game of yours of observing nested hierarchies, you should first define what you call a hierarchy and what not.
How else are we going to determine whether or not some observation is to be considered as a hierarchy?

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Message 976 of 1197 (908015)
03-05-2023 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 974 by Taq
03-01-2023 4:25 PM


Re: Typical?
I asked to define hierarchy. Next step would be to define nesting.

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Message 977 of 1197 (908017)
03-05-2023 9:48 AM
Reply to: Message 975 by Granny Magda
03-01-2023 5:13 PM


Re: Typical?
Same reply to you. Define hierarchy.

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Message 984 of 1197 (908131)
03-08-2023 5:41 AM
Reply to: Message 978 by AZPaul3
03-05-2023 10:14 AM


Re: Typical?
And how do you define rank in context of evolution?

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Message 985 of 1197 (908132)
03-08-2023 5:43 AM
Reply to: Message 979 by Taq
03-07-2023 11:06 AM


Re: Typical?
This is not a definition.

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Message 986 of 1197 (908133)
03-08-2023 5:46 AM
Reply to: Message 983 by Granny Magda
03-07-2023 5:37 PM


Re: Typical?
You keep talking about nested hierarchy. Then define it, before discussing. Otherwise, your claim of observing a nested hierarchy is useless.

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Message 991 of 1197 (908159)
03-09-2023 5:08 AM
Reply to: Message 987 by AZPaul3
03-08-2023 8:42 AM


Re: Typical?
How do you define troll?

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Message 992 of 1197 (908160)
03-09-2023 5:10 AM
Reply to: Message 989 by dwise1
03-08-2023 10:29 AM


Re: Typical?
How is evolutionist more made up than creationist, hypocrite!

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Message 993 of 1197 (908161)
03-09-2023 5:12 AM
Reply to: Message 988 by Granny Magda
03-08-2023 8:48 AM


Re: Typical?
You still have not defined hierarchy.
And what you wrote or quoted, is also not a definition even.

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Message 997 of 1197 (908183)
03-09-2023 11:09 AM
Reply to: Message 995 by Granny Magda
03-09-2023 10:53 AM


Re: Typical?
You are so easily content with vague definitions.
How do you measure rank in biology?
Taq described nested hierarchy without defining it, and without defining hierarchy in particular even.
If you can't define it, then just say so.

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Message 998 of 1197 (908185)
03-09-2023 11:11 AM
Reply to: Message 997 by sensei
03-09-2023 11:09 AM


Re: Typical?
He uses the term. He wants evolutionist defined. Then he should define creationist as well. Whatever it is.

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Message 1003 of 1197 (908210)
03-09-2023 12:43 PM
Reply to: Message 1002 by Taq
03-09-2023 12:15 PM


Re: Typical?
If some one claims that nested hierarchy is observed and insists that we discuss this further, then yes, hierarchy needs to be defined. You lots failed to do so. No surprise there.

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Message 1005 of 1197 (908221)
03-09-2023 1:05 PM
Reply to: Message 1004 by Taq
03-09-2023 12:46 PM


Re: Typical?
A rant and a few examples is not a definition. What is a hierarchy? What are the ranks? How do we determine of two arbitrary species how they are ranked, relative to each other or relative to a general ranking scale?

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