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Faith, that is a lie and you know it is a lie.But you can prove me wrong by presenting the model, method, mechanism, process or procedure that will sort the geology and the critters in the order that they are found in reality.

While that may not be a lie, it is just another utter dishonest misrepresentation and not an honest response to the question.What is needed is more than the word model, it is you explaining HOW any flood, even one of the Biblical floods, can order the geology and critters as found in reality.It is impossible for a flood to order either geology or fossils as found in reality unless you can present the model, mechanism, process or procedure that will sort stuff as found in reality.That has been the issue all along and attempts by you to pretend you have presented a model, mechanism, process or procedure that will sort stuff as found in reality are just additional misrepresentations and falsehoods at best.

Once again Faith, you are just posting falsehoods. In fact all the evidence shows that all of the Earths land mass is habitable. And most of the seas as well. And even the deeps.We find live on the Earth in rocks, under the ice, in the ice, in the sulfur springs, in the air, in the sea; everywhere.And you even misrepresent what the Bible itself says as usual.

Sorry Faith but once again, that is simply not the case. There is no written record authored by the creator nor is there any evidence of any written record authored by the creator.If you think there is such a thing then please present the evidence in support of such an assertion.

Once again you retreat from discussion into spouting your cults dogma.That response is not a model, process, procedure, mechanism or method that would allow a flood to sort either the geology or fossils into the order that exists in reality.Edited by jar, : appalin spallin allow has a "w"

That is not a model, method, mechanism, process or procedure that explains the order of the geology or fossils as they are found in reality. That is not a model, method, mechanism, process or procedure that explains the order of the geology or fossils as they are found in reality. That is not a model, method, mechanism, process or procedure that explains the order of the geology or fossils as they are found in reality and it would still leave evidence which is simply not to be found.Sorry Faith but your cults dogma does not trump reality.Edited by jar, : fix sub-title

It takes a bizarre level of dishonesty and willful ignorance to claim that you have ever presented a model that explains how any flood, even the two Biblical Floods, could sort either the geology or the fossils in the order that they are found in reality. Yet all of the evidence shows that it is a Cult of Ignorance. That is simply fact.

Plus we have areas of the world today that get torrential rains for more than 40 days every year and life goes on and there is even still dirt and soil left after the rain.Yes Virginia, we can and do know what 40 days of water does to rocks and the Earth.

And we know for a fact that some of the most productive, most fertile areas are flood plains and in fact there were even flourishing kingdoms both to the North and South of where Noah was supposed to be located that depended on annual floods directly caused by run off from mountains that were in existence before either of the Biblical Floods.The funny thing is those Kingdoms went right on keeping right on and never even noticed the imaginary Biblical flood.

But wait, there's more.The conventional theories also contain explanations, models, methods, mechanisms, processes and procedures that explain how layers that start on the surface get deeply buried over time along with the remains of things that lived on the surface. In addition, the processes of uplift and subsidence, of weathering and erosion, of burial and exposure, of annual and seasonal changes are all things we observe going on today. We see aeolian and fluvial processes and can see the evidence that distinguishes between the two processes. We see flooding and the evidence that is left by floods. We see incursions and magma and lava flows and pillow lava and ash falls and the evidence that lets us identify past instances.The important thing is we do know how quickly mountains form and how quickly they are eroded away. We do know the processes that raise and lower lands to allow sea inundation and incursion and also recession.The conventional theories are not suppositions, not "What ifs" but rather conclusions based on observed processes that go on today and have gone on in the past and have left specific evidence to show the changes over time.

That is simply not true Faith and you know it.The issue is that all of your points have been addressed, shown to be false and refuted a thousand times. Your points are simply nonsense.The problem for you is that not only do we have the fossils, we have the geology, we have the order the geology and fossils are sorted and we have the models, methods, mechanisms, processes and procedures that explain the fossils and the geology and sorting.All you have are stories written by ignorant humans filled with errors and contradictions.We win!It really is that simple.Edited by jar, : left out a ,

And once again you would be wrong.Yes Virginia, if you look at any cores taken from drilling into sea floors or even on land you do find distinct layers of disparate sediments.Faith once again, we have the fossils, we have the geology, we have the cores, we have the sorting and we have the model, method, mechanism, process & procedure that explains the fossils, the geology, the cores & the sorting.All you have are old stories written by ignorant humans and the fantasies of your cult.We win!

It has been proven time after time after time and only your utter dishonesty and willful ignorance prevents your acknowledgement of the facts.Lets step through the list item by item.The list:

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Faith once again, we have the fossils, we have the geology, we have the cores, we have the sorting and we have the model, method, mechanism, process & procedure that explains the fossils, the geology, the cores & the sorting.

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All you have are old stories written by ignorant humans and the fantasies of your cult.

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The fossils exist.The geology exists.The cores exist.They are sorted in the order found in reality.We have the model, method, mechanism, process & procedure that explains the fossils, the geology, the cores & the sorting which is the same processes that go on today over a very long period of time.The processes exist and can be observed today.EVERY method of dating, every technology of dating, every observation involved in dating support an Old Earth.All you have are old stories written by ignorant humans and the fantasies of your cult and you have NEVER presented anything other than old stories written by ignorant humans and the fantasies of your cult.

LOL No Faith, that is not true. You have been misrepresenting physical features.Prove what Faith?That the fossils exist?That the geology exists?That the fossils and geology are sorted in the order found in reality?That we have the model, method, mechanism, process & procedure that explains the fossils, the geology, the cores & the sorting which are the same processes that go on today over a very long period of time.That the processes exist and can be observed today?That EVERY method of dating, every technology of dating, every observation involved in dating support an Old Earth?Those are simply facts Faith. It is up to you to present evidence that refutes reality and the facts.AbE:Yes, you can always take your argument to the Christian Cult of Ignorance and your position might even be received without too much laughter.BUT you cannot take your argument to anywhere that recognizes reality and get it to fly.Edited by jar, : see AbE;

Once again you are simply lying Faith and showing your utter ignorance. There are oil and coal and sediment layers in ocean cores. And that is not what I say, that is reality. There are cores found on what today is land that shows in the distant past that spot was ocean. You have been show that evidence many, many times here at EvC.We can even see the model, method, mechanism, process & procedure that explains the sedimentary layers found in oceans. Many aeolian deposits end up on the bottom of the ocean and we do see that happening today as dust is carried by wind over the ocean and then deposited. We see it with runoff carrying sediment from the land and depositing it in the oceans.Come on Faith. These are things that are happening right now and have been happening for billions of years on the Earth.Faith once again, we have the fossils, we have the geology, we have the cores, we have the sorting and we have the model, method, mechanism, process & procedure that explains the fossils, the geology, the cores & the sorting.All you have are old stories written by ignorant humans and the fantasies of your cult.