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AZPaul3
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Message 8 of 531 (699336)
05-17-2013 4:50 PM


Cry, cry, cry.
A lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth. Cathartic maybe but in the end useless.
What do you propose to do about it? Anything other than bitch?

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Message 23 of 531 (699363)
05-18-2013 12:38 AM
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05-17-2013 5:16 PM


Re: Cry, cry, cry.
I reckon bitching would be a damn good start.
Maybe I'm just way way older but this have/have-not richer-get-richer bitching has been going on for decades and I'm not talking just 3 or 4. And we as a society do nothing to change this so it just keeps getting more pronounced.
Unless we're content to let this continue to the point where the trodden poor, and the state in response, have to start killing people in large numbers doesn't anyone think we might try to address the problem?
And if the answer is "sure," then the question is "how"?

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Message 74 of 531 (699519)
05-20-2013 11:46 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by Modulous
05-20-2013 5:20 PM


Re: Tax and Force are not synonymous
Well, a long lost voice from the past. You left a hell of a hole in EvC, Mod. About time you got your ass back here.
Welcome back.

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Message 94 of 531 (699554)
05-21-2013 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by Percy
05-21-2013 4:03 PM


Is this person a slave?
They are free to leave their employer. To go where? Do what?
Another equally dangerous $2.50 per day job? Walk the streets?
When the choices you have are voluntary servitude or starvation then your freedom is not much different from slavery.
Edited by AZPaul3, : Word change.

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Message 125 of 531 (699598)
05-22-2013 12:38 AM
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05-21-2013 6:34 PM


The same thing they did before the employer moved into town.
Which for the most part was a $2.48/day sweatshop or near starving on the street which is why ...
When a company builds a new factory in a low wage country, ($2.48/day) workers beat a path to their ($2.50) door because it beats the alternative.
You are correct. This level of voluntary servitude where the alternatives are no better, except the ones involving dying of starvation, cannot technically be called slavery even though in practical human terms there is little if any difference.
So does this make it acceptable to abuse people?
Does this make it acceptable for Wal-Mart, Adidas and others to say, "Your safety, your life, is not worth the few pennies in per share value our millionaire shareholders might suffer if we treated you with the respect due a real human being"?

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Message 170 of 531 (699666)
05-22-2013 6:41 PM
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05-22-2013 8:19 AM


Interesting how in your view, higher wages are a form of abuse.
Where did I say such a thing?
In my post the "abuse" was not in the numbers in the top portion but in the statement in the bottom portion.
But, I think you knew that.

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Message 243 of 531 (699871)
05-27-2013 7:45 AM
Reply to: Message 197 by Percy
05-24-2013 10:50 AM


Who, me?
Have you considered the possibility that whatever you meant, it wasn't what you said? Or that it was sufficiently ambiguous as to be open to other interpretations?
No, of course not. Preposterous.
Besides, I will stand on my Dudley Do-Right defense.
When Dudley would say something a bit off the voice over (usually Bill Conrad) would explain, "That wasn't quite right but Dudley knew what he meant so it's OK."

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