One can refute these arguments in several ways, among them pointing out that the religion under discussion does, in fact, have a record no better--or perhaps even worse--than comparable secular organizations.
If that was the point, then I'm afraid it got rather lost in the back and forth. If you feel this line of argument is germane, then by all means continue. However, if it degenerates into a "yes it did", "no it didn't" kind of discussion, I will again admonish participants to focus more on the actual substance of the OP.
"Here come da Judge" - Flip Wilson
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