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Topic: Discrimination ok, if based on religion? what else then?
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Message 51 of 248 (380042)
01-26-2007 8:10 AM
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Reply to: Message 13 by Heathen
01-25-2007 1:34 PM
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Re: Discrimination or inclusion?
Dude I was gonna start this thread myself.  I totally agree with your point and the slavery analogy. It makes me sick thet people would deny children a loving home because their feelings are hurt because they are not allowed to practice discrimination. Bastards to a man.
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Message 52 of 248 (380045)
01-26-2007 8:13 AM
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Reply to: Message 16 by anastasia
01-25-2007 3:22 PM
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Re: Discrimination or inclusion?
You can't veto equality without clearly discriminating against the group you are not being equal to. Again, to deny a child a loving family is sick.
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Message 53 of 248 (380046)
01-26-2007 8:17 AM
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Reply to: Message 23 by anastasia
01-25-2007 3:45 PM
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Re: Discrimination or inclusion?
Why should any one respect a belief that increases childhood misery?
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Message 54 of 248 (380048)
01-26-2007 8:20 AM
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Reply to: Message 27 by anastasia
01-25-2007 4:07 PM
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Re: Discrimination or inclusion?
ana writes: Anyone who follows everything in the Bible in this day and age is odd. Ok, where do you choose to draw the line?
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Message 55 of 248 (380050)
01-26-2007 8:23 AM
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Reply to: Message 34 by anastasia
01-25-2007 5:59 PM
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Re: Discrimination or inclusion?
ana writes: It condemns not only homosexuality, but fornication, masturbation, divorce, You do know that is pretty much everyone on the planet?
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Message 56 of 248 (380052)
01-26-2007 8:26 AM
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Reply to: Message 35 by anastasia
01-25-2007 6:06 PM
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Re: Discrimination or inclusion?
ana writes: In real life the children will almost definitely get discriminated against themselves. My mother came out as gay when I was a kid: none of my school chums made an issue of it. Hurrah for not going to a religious school. As an aside, would you prevent a child from going to a couple who were a pair of fat bastards? They would get no end of ribbing from their playmate.
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Message 61 of 248 (380088)
01-26-2007 10:46 AM
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Reply to: Message 57 by nator
01-26-2007 9:30 AM
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Re: Discrimination or inclusion?
nator writes: And I think THAT is the real problem the Catholics have with gay adoption. They REALLY want people to continue to hate gays. Bang on the money, nator. A particular view of a dusty text obviously means more to some than the welfare of a child.
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Message 70 of 248 (380228)
01-26-2007 7:09 PM
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Reply to: Message 66 by anastasia
01-26-2007 5:32 PM
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Re: Discrimination or inclusion?
How the hell is it right for xians to say that it is right to close down perfectly good oportunities for children to have a chance at a loving family? You see gheys as not worthy of bringing up kids otherwise you would not have a discriminatory stance on this issue. If you thoughts gheys were good enough to trust with kids this issue would never have come up. You don't want gheys to foster or adopt kids. Your position is SICK and so full of hate that it would see kids pushed from pillar to post rather than see them go to a good home! Edited by Larni, : No reason given.
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Message 71 of 248 (380231)
01-26-2007 7:15 PM
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Reply to: Message 67 by anastasia
01-26-2007 5:53 PM
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Re: Homosequality
ana writes: If sex is not consensual, if it is undertaken with out the desire for a child, That fragment puts it so very clearly into focus your position. You equate none consensual sex with protected sex with a loving partner. I plan to have sex tonight with no intention of making a baby; will I be barred from adopting? This is planet 21st century calling Ana? Edited by Larni, : No reason given.
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Message 95 of 248 (380397)
01-27-2007 6:57 AM
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Reply to: Message 81 by anastasia
01-26-2007 9:41 PM
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Re: the happy_atheist asks....
Totally agree with you here Ana; hurrah!
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Message 96 of 248 (380399)
01-27-2007 7:15 AM
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Reply to: Message 86 by anastasia
01-26-2007 10:12 PM
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Re: Discrimination or inclusion?
ana writes: you give me some concrete evidence that homosexuality is not a choice, and that acting on a desire even if it is innate in you is always correct, I am forced to continue in my belief that homosexuality is a by-product of character and is one of the variables of character itself. Artical writes: Popular belief & base rate of homosexuality .. 43% of Americans believe that 'young homosexuals became that way because of older homosexuals' In an interview with Science in 1992 Bailey stated: 'No one has ever found a postnatal social environmental influence for homosexual orientation - and they have looked plenty' Read this Please take a look at this link from my university. If you are really interested in finding out a bit more about this subject. Start from the top to get a really good idea of what it all means. Please don't cherry pick. Edited by Larni, : No reason given. Edited by Larni, : No reason given.
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Re: Discrimination or inclusion?
Nighttrain writes: Could it possibly be (belief in God)' very easily a product of surroundings, experiences, fears, or even false signals from the brain'? Yes sir, it could: very easily.
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Re: Larni, fix your link!
Could you tell me how?
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Message 114 of 248 (380536)
01-27-2007 7:21 PM
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Reply to: Message 103 by jar
01-27-2007 11:41 AM
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Re: Larni, fix your link!
Thanks, Jar.
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Larni
Member Posts: 4000 From: Liverpool Joined: 09-16-2005
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Message 116 of 248 (380540)
01-27-2007 7:25 PM
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Reply to: Message 105 by anastasia
01-27-2007 12:53 PM
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Re: Discrimination or inclusion?
ana writes: sexual identity and orientation are due to a pre-birth malfunction I should not have implied malfunction. I meant different.
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