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Modulous
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Message 48 of 205 (660799)
04-29-2012 3:35 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by Jon
04-29-2012 3:11 PM


Re: Mr. Willingham
Would you care to elaborate on how you came to believe there was a "scientific conclusion that the fire that killed his children was not arson"?
From this, presumably
quote:
{From, Analysis of the Fire Investigation Methods and Procedures Used in the Criminal Arson Cases Against Ernest Ray Willis and Cameron Todd Willingham}
The investigations of the Willis and Willingham fires did not comport with either the modern standard of care expressed by NFPA 921, or the standard of care expressed by fire investigation texts and papers in the period 1980—1992. The investigators had poor understandings of fire science and failed to acknowledge or apply the contemporaneous understanding of the limitations of fire indicators. Their methodologies did not comport with the scientific method or the process of elimination. A finding of arson could not be sustained based upon the standard of care expressed by NFPA 921, or the standard of care expressed by fire investigation texts and papers in the period 1980—1992.

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Modulous
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Message 53 of 205 (660806)
04-29-2012 4:19 PM
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04-29-2012 4:02 PM


Re: Mr. Willingham
There's certainly ample amounts of reasonable doubt
Innocent until proven guilty. Proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt.
But neither am I convinced of his innocence.
Fortunately, in most cases, we don't have to prove someone is innocent as that is very difficult in most cases. While I can prove my innocence in the JFK murder, I cannot prove my innocence in the murder of Halton McCollin (who was murdered very close to where I was at the time).
If there is reasonable doubt whether an arson occurred, there is even more doubt that he is guilty of arson.

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