Why TOE is not accepted

I'm sorry but I really disagree. While it is perfectly all right for Faith to express her belief about evolution or geology, once the subject is brought up I see no reason that people should not refer to science or evidence to show that her belief conflicts with the reality. Faith is free to tell anyone that she is simply going to ignore the facts or pretend that they don't exist, even handwave them away, she can refuse to answer such questions because they conflict with her belief system, but the full picture needs to be displayed so that those reading the thread can make their own judgements.Religion does not exist in a vacuum. Reality is out there and when reality conflicts with someones belief system they can simply say, "Because I don't believe it!"

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I will use some of this post to try to show where the issue lies.First, please note that you have entered the world of science. When you make statements such as: You move from the area of theology to science. From this statement on it is reasonable and necessary to apply the standards and methods of science to the discussion.

It is fine for you to assert your belief that the above is true. If you wish to take that stand, feel free. But if you wish to pursue that line as fact, then you will be required to use the scientific method to support your position.

The former might do as a definition of science if slightly reworded. I certainly have never heard the claim that Science can discover all things. The later is Dr. Sagan's personal opinion.

You may not have found it but it's probably still around. We do not delete threads.AbE: It is at Message 1This message has been edited by AdminJar, 08-01-2005 05:27 PM

Time to put this thread out of its misery.If there is more to be said then someone can propose a PNT.Thanks to all who participated.

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