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nwr
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Message 15 of 122 (601358)
01-19-2011 11:44 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by ApostateAbe
01-19-2011 7:37 PM


I agree with several others. We could use some evidence here. Without evidence, we are engaging in speculation.
As far as speculation goes, I would think that Copernicus, Galileo and Newton were more important for giving us reasons to question religion.
Before big-bang cosmology, you could use panspermia as a possible explanation of the source of life. It is still a possibility, of course, but if the universe has a finite history then panspermia loses some of its explanatory power.
Fundies like to blame Darwin, but I'll remain skeptical until there is good evidence to support that view.

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Message 18 of 122 (601367)
01-20-2011 1:42 AM


History of atheism
There's a Wikipedia entry on the History of atheism which is probably good background reading for this thread.
As of the time of this post, that wiki page doesn't even mention Darwin.

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Message 33 of 122 (601422)
01-20-2011 12:02 PM
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01-20-2011 11:51 AM


Re: History of atheism
ApostateAbe writes:
Yeah, that is weird. The two most pronounced modern figures of atheism draw a very strong connection, but apparently the editors of the Wikipedia find the connection small or irrelevant.
Let's remember that Dawkins and Dennett are primarily concerned with evolution, and only secondarily concerned with atheism. (Well, Dennett is primarily concerned with philosophy and cognitive science and secondarily concerned with evolution, so his concern with atheism is tertiary.)

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Message 37 of 122 (601429)
01-20-2011 12:20 PM
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ApostateAbe writes:
OK, would you say that the combined science of Newton, Kepler, Galileo, Copernicus, Lyell Darwin and so on provided a good accumulation of explanatory science that essentially eliminated the need for God?
I would agree that the advance of science is an important part of the growth of atheism. However, I don't like the expression "eliminated the need for God". I would be more inclined to the view that the advance of science has encouraged skepticism, and skepticism leads to the questioning of religion.

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