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Author Topic:   Does ID follow the scientific method?
subbie
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Message 47 of 121 (592091)
11-18-2010 3:57 PM
Reply to: Message 40 by Dawn Bertot
11-18-2010 2:13 AM


Question everything
What general methods does the SM use that are not employed by the IDer, to come to thier conclusions
Question everything.
If someone has a theory, try to disprove it. Challenge it in every way possible. Don't accept anything as given or as a necessary truth. Anything could be wrong, even the ToE.
IDers, by contrast, start with the inerrant truth of the bible and try to fit observations about the natural world within that framework.
That, in a nutshell, is the difference between the two approaches.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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subbie
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Message 76 of 121 (592233)
11-19-2010 9:49 AM
Reply to: Message 58 by Dawn Bertot
11-19-2010 2:23 AM


Re: Question everything
The Bible has nothing to do with your and my approaches to Nature, if I am using simple evaluation processes correct.
Correct, but IDists don't use simple evaluation processes.
Is the guy that is a Christian and a detective in the police force, wrong in his approach to a crime because he believes in the Bible
He is if he lets his belief dictate how he evaluates the evidence.
Please demonstrate why my observations of nature, my experiments, my evaluations and my predictions of what nature will reveal, are not science
An IDist warps observations of the real world to fit with preconceived ideas from the bible. That's why they are not science. In science, the observations come first, then conclusions are based on the observations. In ID, the conclusion comes first, then the evidence is stretched, twisted, torn and mutilated until it fits the conclusion.
Why wont anyone try and answer that question
Several people have. You either don't like the answers or don't have the wit to understand them.

Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson
We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat
It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate
...creationists have a great way to detect fraud and it doesn't take 8 or 40 years or even a scientific degree to spot the fraud--'if it disagrees with the bible then it is wrong'.... -- archaeologist

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