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Author Topic:   Why do Creationists have faith in a second rate creator?
onifre
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Message 20 of 82 (536239)
11-20-2009 5:06 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by New Cat's Eye
11-20-2009 2:40 PM


JUC writes:
But something the Bible is undoubtedly clear on is that people should believe in God, should worship God, should obey God. Those points are rammed home again and again. How, then, is does a "better" or "perfect" God allow his existence and his doctrine to be disputable? If he thinks it is better for us not to believe in him, not to worship him, not to obey him, why does he keep telling us to believe in him, worship him and obey him? That doesn't make any logical, objective sense!
CS writes:
That's a fairly common question... why doesn't god just prove he exists and instead rely on faith?
Ehh, I don't think that's what he is saying, I think it goes a little deeper. I used to have the same questions when I was younger and on the fence about god.
It's not about him proving to us anything, its that these books tell us we have to believe, they tell us we have to worship, we have to have faith, etc.
All the while, god sits back and watches many of them (they can't all be right, for all of history) lie in his name, and believers follow blindly to the lies. If certain doctrines are true, most of the world is destined to eternal Hell simply for being born in the wrong place at the wrong time; some will end up in Hell because they listened to the wrong guy preaching the wrong book; many will end up in Hell because of circumstances out of their control - god sees this, and does nothing.
So how could he expect anyone to trust an institution of men, or multiple institutions of men, all claiming to know what god wants, all professing that their books are the correct ones, all claiming different stories are the right story?
Is it god or man who wants to be worshipped?
If god loves us, why does he allow men to lead his children blindly into Hell by the millions? What does that say about god?
I guess that way, those that do believe will be special.
Those who place their faith in the words of men are considered special to god?
And those who in all honesty can't believe the words of men would be what?
- Oni

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Edited by onifre, : No reason given.

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