I want one good reason that being gay is ok

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The sexual acts that you describe that are done by heterosexuals, I do not approve of eother, so that doesn't make itok either.

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Who do you think you are?Where do you get off telling ANYBODY what they can do in the privacy of their own bedroom? (pun intended)Guess what?I don't approve of a lot of the crap that a lot of religions, including yours, propagates in our country, but never in a million years would I EVER dream of wanting legislation to make it illegal for people to go to church/temple/synagogue/meditation just because I don't agree with it.RiverRat, how dare you try to control other people's sex lives, as long as it is consentual sex between two adults?What's next? Are you going to try to get laws passed to restrict what I can eat to what your religion approves of?What frigging business is it of yours what I eat?You have control issues.This message has been edited by schrafinator, 07-08-2004 08:09 AM

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What if I believe it should be illegal?
I am also not pushing my beliefs of gay sex not being ok, on others. But gay people are. I am going to have to accept it, live with it, see it, explain it to my kids, and so on if it is ok to have gay sex.

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This message has been edited by schrafinator, 07-08-2004 08:26 AM

Knowing good from evil

Er, how is that a response?

Because the implimications of having gay sex, and bowling are very different.The only thing I can get from it, is that if its ok to think bowling is not ok, then its ok to think that having gay sex is not ok.Thats why I want a reason why its ok. I am not looking for a reason why bowling is.Comparing bowling to gay sex, does not help think its ok.

That makes it ok for them, not me.

No one's insisting that you suck a wang, guy. So what do you care?Come up with a reason why homosexuality has anything to do with morality one way or the other yet?

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"Egos drone and pose alone, Like black balloons, all banged and blown
On a backwards river the infidels shiver in the stench of belief.
And tell my mama I'm a hundred years late; I'm over the rails and out of the race
The crippled psalms of an age that won't thaw are ringing in my ears"
-Beck

I've already responsed to this, River, but I'll do so again in some vain hope that maybe you'll pay attention this time.We live, thankfully, in a free society. That means that we have the ability to choose how to live our lives, and that to most of us is a valuable thing in, and of, itself. It's why you can go to Church, buy bibles, buy Nachos, sit and play tiddley-winks in your garden or whatever it is you do with your time.The whole point of a free society is that people can choose to do the things they like to, and/or want to, do. And this is, in and of itself, a good thing.That's why what gays want to do is a reason why it is ok, and why the onus is on you to come up with a good reason why it is not ok not on us to come with a reason why it is.

Of course I tried several variations of the 2 words, with a few others, and still came up with nothing. But its not my point anyway. Enough said. Here is where you guys are starting to win. I once said that being gay is a choice completely. Now I have changed my thoughts on that. Being gay may or may not be a choice. If some innocent kid didn't know anything about sex, and another gay kid showed him how to have gay sex, the innocent kid might try it.Here's a question, is it possible to have gay sex, and yet not be gay? (gay desires)But having gay sex is definatly a choice, we agree? When I say the words gay lifestyle, I mean nothing more than the way a gay person chooses to live, by choosing to have gay sex, and choosing to "marry" another gay person. Not that anything else in there life would be different. They are the same as me and you.I keep telling you, you cannot compare bowling to having gay sex, the way you want to do it. They are 2 different things. I will start a new thread with all the reasons.

Main Entry: 1gay
Pronunciation: 'gA
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French gai
1 a : happily excited : MERRY b : keenly alive and exuberant : having or inducing high spirits
2 a : BRIGHT, LIVELY b : brilliant in color
3 : given to social pleasures; also : LICENTIOUS
4 a : HOMOSEXUAL b : of, relating to, or used by homosexuals

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Saying the word gay could mean, having gay sex, or the desire of being attracted to the same sex. I have already clarified what this whole thread is about, gay sex.

I agree.

If I think rhains comments are not from God's word, then I will dismiss him as not being a god. Until he goes against God's word. I don't have time to go read those threads, but just because God knew they would eat it, and told them not too, doesn't make it not their fault. They had a choice. Yes they knew it was wrong. They didn't know why it was wrong, they couldn't tell on their own, so God told them. Thats how the serpent tricked them. The serpent was wrong, but Eve couldn't tell the difference, so she took the word of the serpent over God's and ruined it.

Being gay, and having gay sex are different.The first one you cannot help, the second you can.
Actually the first one you can help, with the help of God.

You greet your Grandmother with a tongue kiss?

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(i reject john, because of it's anti-semitic and blasphemous nature)

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...not to mention that John changes the timing of Jesus' crucifiction to be before Passover, where the other three Gospels have the last supper as a Passover meal.