Kingdom on Earth (Re: Barack Obama comments)

the least he could do would be to at least spell names correctly.For the record buzz, it's:
Bin Laden
Shi'ite
Wahhabi (given that the sect's founder's name is Ibn Abdul-Wahhab)further, the Wahhabi's have more people than just in Saudi Arabia. Include Kuwait and Qatar, as well as small places in Somalia, Algeria, Palestine, and Mauritania.Oh well, at least buzz stopped the the us al et al from what I can tell.

All I need say is John Edwards.
A one term senator.
No one knew of him until he ran for president in '04.
He becomes VP candidate.
Now he's running for president again. in '08.He is a junior statemen (on the federal level, like Obama. I know Obama has plenty of state-level experience). He is now (and was) a leading contender for the presidency at a strong third place.By the way, if I was raised in a catholic family, taught in a catholic school, but have in my life since renounced catholicism, does that still make me a catholic? By the way you paint Obama, I would still be a catholic. Yet I am not. Does this make sense to you? Or is it only because he was raised as a muslim that you can't see the inanity of what you propose?And I wouldn't expect the islamic fundies to declare his death sentence until he seriously insults Islam.

So therefore he is a muslim.
So therefore I am a catholic.
Both are counter to our personal statements.You are relying on a very fundamentalist interpretation of Islam.
If we went that fundamentalist with christianity (or judaism), you are supposed to be killed for even slight crimes. You aren't supposed to eat things like shellfish and a ton of other inane things. Tell me, where are the Christian fundies crying out against the lying and hypocrisy of their own members?There is such a thing as being a moderate religious person. In the case of being Islamic, this means that you can change religion without having a death sentence attached to you.One final thought--do you think, perhaps, that Obama just isn't worth the trouble to condemn? After all, Bush has committed far more serious crimes than a senator who really has no effective say in foreign policy. And look, it's American imperialism (and Bush) that are dragged through the slime and the mud. Obama is nothing until he becomes president. Then you will see the attacks begin against him if he continues doing what they hate us for. Take heart--the fundies will always find something to hate about us.

who said it was moral to eat meat? Or to slaughter cattle (and all other animals we eat)?Or did you think someone has said it is moral to slaughter the animals? Because that is what your argument is now resting on.And then there is a separate dilemma--should I kill the cow and eat it to survive, or should I starve because it is imoral to kill it?Further, even if consent is a slippery slope argument it does not necessarily diminish it's ability to qualify what is moral or imoral or even amoral. The two are separate ideas and arguments. Not quite sure which fallacy your employing, but it's there.

Well, actually, the creators of South Park are ocnservative.You know what's funny about Ward Churchill? That you listed him as a leader in the liberal movement, or something to that effect. He was recently (As in, several months back) kicked out of CU-Boulder.Wait, a liberal being kicked out of an institution you would consider liberal?I know of only 11 of the people you listed. Only 3-4 by what they've actually said or written. They are, to me, merely names. I'd hardly call any of them my leader(s). Check your facts. It was the Eisenhower adminstration that got us into that mess known as Vietnam, officially. That would be in 1955. He sent the MAAG to train the South Vietnamese Army. Previously, they had been in Vietnam to supervise the spending of the millions of dollars the Truman and Eisenhower administrations sent to support the French effort. brackets mine.Of course, if one doesn't really look at the situation, you can get away with making such asinine comments. It appears that part of the reason the marines were pulled out of Lebanon was for US-Arab relations.In the case of Somalia, the US forces were part of a larger UN peacekeeping force--UNOSOM I, followed by UNITAF, followed by UNOSOM II. In the case of UNOSOM I, it was ineffective, so the peacekeeping mission was expanded, leading to Operation Restore Hope, which was more succesful. The US forces associated with it withdrew, because the mission was succesful. UNITAF was then replaced by UNOSOM II, during which the infamous "Black Hawk Down" incident occurred. UNUSOM II was pulled out because it was unsuccesful at restoring government order. Now please keep in mind that in all three cases the US forces were part of the UN peacekeeping mission, and as such, would have had to be withdrawn regardless of who was in the administration.

There are some very false statements contained in here.
First is the date. Colombus didn't discover the caribean islands until 1492. The only settlement prior to his rediscovery of america was the colony founded by Leif Erikson in what is now Nova Scotia, roughly around the 1000s.The spanish wouldn't be settling the Americas in significant numbers until into the 16th century (1500s).Further, the Spaniards and Portuguese were catholics, not protestants. You don't find a protestant settlement until the 1600s that survives in the Americas, though the english were certainly exploring the region well beforehand.The final mistatement. We did not kill 40 million people before 1492. That is largely when the killing started. It didn't stop until the 1880s, if not later.But your overall point is right--Hitler is beat by predecessors and successors, and beat by the very people the religious would like us to look away from or in a different light.

Did I say anything about diseases not factoring in?

Well that's certain bullshit buz. Might want to re-read your history.Please tell me how the Cheyenne-Arapahoe Massacre at Cherry Creek was not the result of originally violent settlers?We wanted their land and we killed them to get it.And isn't it funny how if America is supposed to the the land of the free those people had to move to the midwest to find it? Or maybe they were going for different reasons?No surprise, coming from you. Given you screw ups in history.