Kingdom on Earth (Re: Barack Obama comments)

NJ writes: What??? What would lead you to believe something so lofty? Again, does the possibility exist? Yes. But is there any good reason to believe that? The magnitude of this postulate requires a collusion factor up there with the Trade Center conspiracy theories.

The opportunity in this is not accusing him of being a “closet Moslem.” It requires taking him at his word that he has become a Christian ” for that means he is an apostate. There is no dispute among either ancient or modern Moslem scholars that under Islamic law, a murtadd, “one who turns his back on Islam,” an apostate, must be put to death. Irtidad, apostasy, is committing treason against God, and traitors deserve to be killed.Should Obama deny he ever was a Moslem, it will compound the problem in the eyes of Moslems. He was born of a Moslem father, raised by a Moslem stepfather, and received his first education at a Moslem school. That he subsequently went to a Catholic school in Jakarta before living with his mother’s parents back in Honolulu makes no difference. In the eyes of Moslems, he originally was a Moslem. How can he not be in those eyes, with a Koranic first name and his middle name that of the grandson of Mohammed? For him to become a Christian means he is, for them, a murtadd, an apostate.Which provides the perfect opportunity for an enterprising journalist to ask him at a press conference if he is: 1. Afraid of Moslem assassination attempts as punishment for being in Islamic eyes an apostate? 2. Willing to publicly call upon all Moslems around the world to renounce such punishment and declare instead that Moslems are fully free to convert to another religion?The odds are high that he will answer no to the first and yes to the second. As an oily politician, he will try to squirm out of a clear definitive yes with no wiggle room. But it should not be difficult for a smart journalist to get him to agree without reservation that Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, which states...Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience, and religion. This right includes freedom to change his religion or belief....applies to MuslimsOnce Obama condemns the Moslem tradition of death for apostasy, then he can be asked:The Koran famously quotes Allah as saying in chapter (sura) 2, verse 256 that there should be ”no compulsion in religion.' Yet numerous sayings of Mohammed known as hadith which form the basis of Islamic Sharia law quote Mohammed as saying ”If a Moslem discards his religion, kill him.' So are you telling Moslems that Allah was right but Mohammed was misquoted, and their Sharia law tradition on apostasy is wrong?You can see how much fun there is to be had with this. Again, the key is taking Obama at his word that he is a Christian and not secretly a Moslem. No accusations necessary. The point is that Moslems view him as first a Moslem, not that he does. If done right with honest, straightforward, and persistent questioning Obama can serve as a quite useful anti-islamofascist tool.

kerusu writes:By the way, if I was raised in a catholic family, taught in a catholic school, but have in my life since renounced catholicism, does that still make me a catholic? By the way you paint Obama, I would still be a catholic. Yet I am not. Does this make sense to you? Or is it only because he was raised as a muslim that you can't see the inanity of what you propose?And I wouldn't expect the islamic fundies to declare his death sentence until he seriously insults Islam.

Why after being indoctrinated as a young child and later as in a Muslim school funded by the Wahabe Saudis transferred to a Catholic school, later to profess Christianity in public given Islamic law as per the Koran teaches that apostates should be killed aa do Islamic fundamentalists today? Where are the Muslim threats on him as would be expected by the fundamentals?

Imo, there's got to be more than coincidence that a junior statesman no more known by most Americans than you or me would suddenly rise up to be a leading contender for president.

Question: Why after being indoctrinated as a young child and later as in a Muslim school funded by the Wahabe Saudis transferred to a Catholic school, later to profess Christianity in public given Islamic law as per the Koran teaches that apostates should be killed aa do Islamic fundamentalists today? Where are the Muslim threats on him as would be expected by the fundamentals?

1. Islam strictly forbids apostating from the religion, once a Muslim, subject to death.

With Islam, it is the epitamy of insult to renounce Islam by apostacism. Even as a youngster after his changed schools, not a whisper of complaint by any of his Muslim associates and mentors evidenced.