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EZscience
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Message 218 of 301 (296438)
03-18-2006 8:30 AM
Reply to: Message 211 by JustinC
03-17-2006 4:15 PM


Re: thoughts on another controversial topic
JustionC writes:
I don't believe a mother-child relationship exists between a woman and an unwanted pregnancy. It's more of a relationship of antagonist-defender.
There is now a real biological basis for this argument over here .

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EZscience
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From: A wheatfield in Kansas
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Message 287 of 301 (296943)
03-20-2006 8:43 PM
Reply to: Message 286 by New Cat's Eye
03-20-2006 7:34 PM


CS writes:
if abortion were made illegal, that woman should be more responsible when choosing a contaceptive or in deciding how much sex she has.
'Should be' or 'would be' ? I suggest your implication is the latter rather than the former but I doubt the outcome would be as inferred. However, my reaction has to be puh-lease, what in hell should we care about a woman's decision regarding what contraception to choose, or how much sex she decides to have? This catholic perspective is positively draconian. You are trying to enforce YOUR set of values on everyone else by advocating illegality of abortion.
CS writes:
Do you and your wife use a contraceptive and have absolutely no regard for the possibility of her getting pregnant?
We have every regard for it and we are thankful that abortion is available as a last resort in case all else fails. It affects neither our choice of contraception nor the amount of sex we have. I am disturbed by your inference that it should.
CS writes:
You know when you have sex that pregnancy is a possibility and you should be prepared for the outcomes of your actions before you do them.
This amounts to saying that we should deny ourselves all remedies to contraceptive failure because we are obliged to accept preganacy as an ultimately inevitable outcome of sex? How bloody archaic.
CS writes:
You shouldn't put yourself in a position where X might happen if you are not prepared for X to happen.
So let's just never have sex unless we are planning to have a baby. Great. Sounds like an action plan to me. Let's just continue to breed like rats until we overpopulate the planet (BTW, FYI, we already have) and make every woman carry every pregnancy to term whether she wants to or not. That should really help stabilize our global ecology.
CS writes:
Having abortions legal takes some of the responsibility off of the situation because the problem can be fixed...
And why not allow people a recourse for their problems? Why don't we just deny everyone the right to automobile insurance. Hell, if they drive a car, they know there's a chance of having an accident and they should be prepared to pay for the consequences. Auto insurance just encourages irresponsible drivers to stay on the road and cause accidents. What a load of morally dogmatic drivel.

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