Immigration Bill is Un-American

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My Grandparents came here for a better way of life, not to make a few bucks and then head back to Italy, and build their dreams house, and start a business over there.

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I assume your grands came here legally? I know I did.The issue is ILLEGAL, meaning against our laws. They sneak in, wantonly ignoring our sovereignty. If we did it to them, there would be an international outcry against us.

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I am by no means an expert on this subject, but this is what I see.

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You don't have to be an expert to understand the difference between legal and illegal immigrant.

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I agree RAZD. I would expect all immigrants to experience the same opportunity my Grandfather had.

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However, they do NOT have the same opportunity, they have taken what is not theirs by stealth and deceit.The only mercy for these disrespectful people is to send them home without first going to jail. Where they may use their ingenuity and willingness to work to better their own country.

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If the goal is "rehabilitation" you would think there would have to be some goals, not just time spent sitting on rock. In fact there used to be a program of providing education to prisoners, and the participants had the lowest rate of recidivism of any rehab program. It was discontinued because people didn't think prisoners should get such extra treatment.

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More than education, exposure to other social environments may be the biggest plus to opening young eyes to their possibilities not being limited by their way of living.

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It's the old "give a man a fish and you feed him for one day, teach him to fish and you feed him for life" eh?

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Well ... I don't need to tell you we think alike. Too many cooks in the kitchen whose apron strings are yanked by too many hands. No one is in charge, and most certainly no one is in control.
If this is a recent pic of you, you're ready for the bike. But, what of the canoe?

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Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't we trying to make a way for them to be legal?

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I'll help fund a broad enough highway to send them all back to Mayhico at the same time. Heck, I'll help build it. I hope to God we are not going to make a way for them to stay. That is simply the signal for more to come and expect the same treatment. They are here illegally, basta.

MSN | Outlook, Office, Skype, Bing, Breaking News, and Latest VideosMigration and the changing face of Europe
Demographic shift tops polls as the biggest issue of concern for Europeans, etc.

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Re: Woe is not us alone
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From your article, I find the following interesting.

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The pope has suggested the addition of mostly-Muslim Turkey to the EU would be a mistake, while right-wing politicians have gained traction by reminding voters of the dangers posed by homegrown Islamic terrorism

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Me, too! Especially since his overtures to the muslims in other categories is 160.From the catechism: 841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."[330]The Christian knows there is no other way to heaven/God but through Christ.Interesting, short read:
http://www.carm.org/catholic/muslims.htm

Malta offers a way station to nowhere
Thousands of unwanted Africans are stuck on this tiny Mediterranean islandMSN | Outlook, Office, Skype, Bing, Breaking News, and Latest VideosThis little island has its hands full. Imagine it!

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VALLETTA, Malta - A migrant flood has overwhelmed the tiny sun-splashed island nation of Malta over the past five years, stirring charges of human-rights violations, taxing the nation’s tiny navy and fueling xenophobia.

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Article is an interesting read. We are not alone!

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They are here illegally, basta.

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You still didn't answer, why?

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...to the dumbing down of America.As for your question? Gimme a break!

I was just musing ... one could make welfare recipients an offer they can't refuse. Minus those who are SERIOUSLY disabled, of course.