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Loudmouth
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Message 5 of 409 (120980)
07-01-2004 8:43 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by jar
07-01-2004 8:29 PM


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For instance how about a national ballistics database?
The only problem with a ballistics database is that the rifling marks can be changed. This can be done by simply running a file through the barrel, or completely re-rifling the barrel. In other words, a ballistics database will not stop people who have the forsight not to get caught.

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Loudmouth
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Message 13 of 409 (121063)
07-02-2004 12:13 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Verzem
07-01-2004 9:41 PM


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And for the sake of this discussion, let's keep in mind that the Second Amendment states that our rights shall not be infriniged.
2nd ammendment: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Regulation, in and of itself, is not an infringement within the language of the 2nd ammendment. At least that's the way I read it.

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Loudmouth
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Message 18 of 409 (121090)
07-02-2004 2:21 AM
Reply to: Message 15 by Verzem
07-02-2004 1:22 AM


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I thought it was already established that the national database would be totally worthless since barrel fingerprints (if you will) can be altered, barrels can be easily replaced, firing pins can be replaced and altered, etc.
I agree, a ballistics databse would be worthless IN MOST CASES since any criminal with any forsight would change the ballistics of the gun. Even without the database, evidence of rifling/pin alteration would still be damning evidence in a trial, giving the impression that the defendant was trying to hide something.
Perhaps we could move to another topic?

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Loudmouth
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Message 32 of 409 (121193)
07-02-2004 12:17 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by johnfolton
07-02-2004 10:12 AM


Re: Stun guns?
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I heard in Switzerland crime is almost non existant, cause everyone owns an assault rifle.
Crime may be low, but this is not the reason. Since Switzerland has a non-existant to small standing army everyone is forced to have a military rifle in their homes. However, they are also anti-gun. The compromise is that the rifle is kept in separate pieces and requires assembly before it can be used. The only real worry a thief has is if the homeowner has enough time to assemble a rifle before his job is done.

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