Are creationists returning to their YEC roots?

Chiroptera has a point--public schools rarely have philosophy courses. Mine had one--Theory of Knowledge, which wasn't technically a philosophy course, but about, well, knowledge. Granted, we only covered philosophy, but . . .We did go over Paley's design argument. The other place it could fit is into history--and in the year 18?? Paley created the design argument philosophy with his watchmaker analogy.Unless you want to introduce philosophy to every high school, fund it, and teach both ID and naturalism, well, your shit out of luck.

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you know, in my IB biology (wait, they've got that in the mountains of virginia!?) we did discuss ID--as a false scientific theory. My philosophy class was due to the IB also.

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perhaps you should look at that curriculum. That isn't any philosophy. That is a anti-science curriculum. If wants to be taught as a philosophy, then it should be more focused on Paley, who did introduce it as a philosophy, and not a science. Also, why the negativity towards evolution and geology if it's a philosophy study? It should be focused on what, how, and why it's a philosophy, not what is "wrong" with evolution and geology. Mick and Rev. don't want this "science" class purporting to be a real philosophy class.

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we did ours in one year--two periods every day. not sure which I would like better, spreading over two years or condensed into one (not information wise, mind you)(congrats for your daughter--they don't offer it until the junior year were I went, and almost all take it the senior year)--better watch out though--methinks Q won't take it well that us mere mortals are messing with the rules

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your first question is rooted in metaphysics. the second question, science--and it's been answered quite solidly. I think the same happens for your third, but physics ain't my area.it's cool you think that. it just came out that you were blaming Rev and Mick for disallowing any free thought in studying philosophy, when they were actually condeming the curriculum that was attempting to look "philosophy". I just wanted to make sure you saw what they were condeming. You do. better yet, you agree with them on that part.

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I honestly don't know why they would want that, if that were the case. Religion is part of our history, part of our philosophies (and ID, as originally construed by Paley is religious. It's only realm is in history and philosophy, but only treated as such. you shove science in a philosophy class, other than explaining and exploring the two types of naturalism (only one of which is the foundation of science), and it doesn't really belong. I will admit, though, that I loved using science in my philosophy class, and at times, it is unavoidable (copernican revolution, gravity and the people who sit on you, ghosts . . .yeah, my class got a little wierd in discussion, but it's not the focus of the curriculum)

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