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Author Topic:   Are creationists returning to their YEC roots?
Quetzal
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Message 52 of 167 (350764)
09-20-2006 5:40 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by GDR
09-20-2006 4:07 PM


I have to say. You guys are really something else. You'd just have students not even exposed to anything but your view of things. You're more close minded than the YEC crowd ever have been.
"You guys" may be something of an over-generalization. I have actually advocated teaching creationism and been successful - right along side phlogiston theory and geocentrism in a section in an IB Biology curriculum concerning the history of discarded concepts (a section on what makes science, science). Of course, I doubt the YECs and IDists would have appreciated the treatment - and I could never have pulled it off in the US. International curricula are generally more open to this kind of thing...

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Quetzal
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Message 61 of 167 (350867)
09-20-2006 11:26 PM
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09-20-2006 6:19 PM


you know, in my IB biology (wait, they've got that in the mountains of virginia!?) we did discuss ID--as a false scientific theory.
Yep, that was exactly how we approached it. However, it wasn't in Virginia - in Kyiv, Ukraine at Pechersk School International, and now in Quito, Ecuador at Academia Cotopaxi. My oldest daughter (10th grade) is in the first year of IB Bio. I'm so proud...

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Quetzal
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Message 139 of 167 (352784)
09-28-2006 8:47 AM
Reply to: Message 137 by Nimrod
09-28-2006 2:56 AM


Re: It wasnt exactly directed at you.
Evolution can generally be criticised (though there have been examples of teachers getting fired for showing the results of research from current science journals as a means of questioning the textbook).
Do you have an example of this? I mean, where someone used the scientific literature to point out an error in a textbook and got fired for it? This sounds extremely unlikely on its face, unless the teacher was attempting to twist the literature (or quotemine) in favor of some kind of religious dogma. I'd be fascinated to read any articles you have links to on that issue.

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Quetzal
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Message 142 of 167 (352799)
09-28-2006 10:08 AM
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09-28-2006 9:17 AM


Re: Here is an audio link
Thanks. However, even without getting into why I consider Hovind a less-than-reliable source of information on anything (if he said the sky was blue, I'd want independent corroboration), my computer is well on its way to the Great Computer Junkyard in the Sky, and consequently doesn't take well to internet downloads. I'd appreciate it if you could provide a transcript of the relevant claim. I don't need the guy's phone number - just a verifiable account, even if it is a media account. I guarantee that if a teacher anywhere got fired for something they taught, then it would be a newspaper item somewhere. Until then, given the source, we'll have to take this one as a "just-so" story, I think.

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