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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
The differences between humans and other species are a matter of degree. We may have "more brain power" than other species but that doen't mean we have unique brain functions. ringo writes:
No, no they don't. Animals have all of that."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
I wish nobody had ever said that. It's a stupid mangling of word meanings. The present is a gift"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
Since you're almost as smart as a five-year-old, show us your "proof". Even a five year-old child could prove that I'm taller than an ant ... but apparently, science can't."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
If you haven't learned the subject, how can you comment on it? Specifically, how can you tell other people they are wrong about it?
I don't have time to learn the subject... Phat writes:
But we already know what believers believe. Many of us used to believe it ourselves. Many of us know more about your beliefs than you do.
... any more than any of you take the time to learn what believers believe... Phat writes:
Many of us have done exactly that. We came from where you are and realized that the belief was worthless. In order for you to understand belief, you would literally have to suspend your intuitive demands for evidence and simply declare that you trust God (should He exist)."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Stile writes:
The Gideons (who put Bibles in hotel rooms) used to give a New Testament to every Public School student in Grade Five. I don't suppose they're allowed to do that any more. We were all given Bibles to read/study (ours to keep forever.)-the Bibles we were given were these small, red versions. I don't remember what version specifically... but I'm pretty sure they were New Testament only, not the entire Bible. "Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Of course we have a say. Ever hear of free will? I pick my own friends. Humans have enough of an ego that they attempt to define what God *should* do and be in order to qualify for the position. As if we had any say!"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Correcting the mistake was a mistake? You're going to have to do a hell of a lot more than just asserting that.
And that was a mistake. Phat writes:
You should know better than that by now. There's no such thing as "devolution".
It was devolution rather than evolution. Phat writes:
Are you confusing devaluation with devolution?
One prime example is the devolution of money. Phat writes:
No you don't. You don't even accept the challenge when I challenge you.
ringo writes:
I challenge that. Many of us know more about your beliefs than you do. Phat writes:
From your posts.
How can you know my own unique thought process, prayer life, and decisions I make? Phat writes:
My historical statements, my current behaviour and what my in-group believes beat yours.
All you have to go on is my historical statements, my current behavior, and what my "in-group" believes. Phat writes:
Sure I do. Try me. And you don't even know them!!"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
It suggests that you don't know the two meanings of the word "present".
All it really suggests is "Live For Today. Today is sacred." Phat writes:
Like the people who believe in gold? It's the standard of the past and an empty hope for the future. Too many people live in the pastand/or dream of a future with no regard for reality. "Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
As I said... we DO have a say in whom our friends are. No friend of mine *should* roast people in Hell.
we have a say in what *we* do but no say (apart from uninformed opinions) about what God should do. Phat writes:
The Book also explains what we *must* do to be saved - but you don't mind throwing that part away.
the Book explains how we *should* relate to God and Jesus... Phat writes:
The reality standard is highest. We are real. God is questionable at best. After all, what standard is higher?"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat]As if humanity has not caused all wars and economic crashes!
Everything good that has happened to humanity was also caused by humanity. Humanity has cured diseases that God created. Stop hating humanity so much."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Yes. Do you in fact have any friends?"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Dredge writes:
My statement was, "Since you're almost as smart as a five-year-old, show us your "proof". Message 3077 Do you know how a tape-measure works? You claimed in Message 3063 that "Even a five year-old child could prove that I'm taller than an ant ... but apparently, science can't." The onus is on you to back up your claim, whether I know anything about tape measures or not. Go ahead, show us your "proof"."Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Dredge writes:
Because science doesn't deal in proof any more than brain surgery deals in aviation. Why can't science prove that I'm taller than an ant?"Let me win. But if I cannot win, let me be brave in the attempt." -- motto of the Special Olympians
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
You're being dishonest. You know damn well what monster he's talking about - the one who threatens to roast us in Hell, the one who created Hell in the first place, the one who lets children die horrible deaths.
Honestly I can't figure out what monster you are talking about... Phat writes:
No it isn't. War has been figuratively compared to Hell. You should probably stop using the phrase "by definition" entirely. ... war, in general, is hell by definition."Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg. What's going on? Where are all the friends I had? It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong. Give me back, give me back my Leningrad." -- Leningrad Cowboys
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
How so? Be specific.
It is you who is being dishonest Phat writes:
I don't know any such thing. I have heard hundreds of preachers say that the "unsaved" will suffer eternal torment. You're the one who is trying to whitewash the evil God that you have created.
You know darn well that none of your friends are being fried. Phat writes:
Sure they do. Your "Nuh uh" is what doesn't hold any water. And you Also know that none of the dead baby argumentshold any water. Don't just deny, deny, deny. Make an argument."Oh no, They've gone and named my home St. Petersburg. What's going on? Where are all the friends I had? It's all wrong, I'm feeling lost like I just don't belong. Give me back, give me back my Leningrad." -- Leningrad Cowboys
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